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Being George Steinbrenner
ESPN ^ | 10/21/04 | Page 2 Staff, ESPN

Posted on 10/21/2004 10:38:11 AM PDT by misterrob

Being George Steinbrenner

Biggest choke in sports history by the team with the biggest payroll in the biggest rivalry in sports. Needless to say it's a safe bet that George Steinbrenner is well on his way to insanity. Page 2 looks inside Steinbrenner's head to find out just how far along he is:



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KEYWORDS: choke; mlb; redsox; steinbrenner; yankees
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To: Reagan Man
I do not hate the Yankees. Sometimes I even root for them. However, when your team has just lost, particularly in embarrassing fashion, you do not point to all the titles your team has won over the years. We're talking about this year. I did not point to the 14 titles the Lakers have won when they got whipped by the Pistons this year. And that final series should have been on the all time upset list last night, IMHO. It's a losers response to talk about the past. I notice Notre Dame fans seem to do it a lot these days.

Anyway, the Yankees just committed the biggest collapse in baseball history, that cannot be disputed. The biggest choke, that's debatable, but definitely right up there.

41 posted on 10/21/2004 12:23:21 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Billthedrill
My team, the Mariners, is looking for a manager.

The Mariners announced the hiring of Mike Hargrove yesterday.

42 posted on 10/21/2004 12:26:08 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: Reagan Man

Giambi was a BALCO client. He's got lower joint problems (which is consistant with roid usage) and he's going down hill. His defense sucks and at best, he's a DH.


43 posted on 10/21/2004 12:28:27 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: xp38

That's right, thought that was Showalter.


44 posted on 10/21/2004 12:29:04 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: Reagan Man

The past is not relevant in this case, it was a Chizzz-oke!

No team has ever done what the sox did. Or what the yankees did either.

Each team is essentially new after about 5 years. The fact that they won in the late 90's is meaningless here.


45 posted on 10/21/2004 12:29:19 PM PDT by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: Billthedrill

Hargrove was announced


46 posted on 10/21/2004 12:29:49 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: embedded_rebel
"Joe Torre your FIRED. "

Ya got that right. The team looked like it was on sleeping pills and past their bedtime. They watched the fat pitches float by and struck out on stuff outside the strike zone. The Red Sox with superior team play outdid the Yankees all year. Torre the bucks stopped for you.

47 posted on 10/21/2004 12:32:00 PM PDT by ex-snook (Vote for someone who represents your views or your views will be ignored.)
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To: Dont Mention the War

Given the number of teams teh wild card is neeeded. And yes, that is how they got in. after winning almost one hundred games and beating the Yankees 11 out of 19 times this year, let alone crushing the top teams in the west.

The 'Damned' Wild card team has disposed of two division winners.

In 2002 the Wild Card team won it all.


48 posted on 10/21/2004 12:32:03 PM PDT by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: RFT1

I disagree, the Blue Jays were supposed to be a good Team this year (god knows what happened there), and if the O's were in the central division they would have given The twins a run.


49 posted on 10/21/2004 12:33:43 PM PDT by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: Conservomax
In 2002 the Wild Card team won it all.

The Marlins were the wildcard last year, too.

50 posted on 10/21/2004 12:33:47 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: Reagan Man

By unselfish desire to win, do you mean knocking a ball out of a pitcher's hand (like a little blue-lipped b***h)?



51 posted on 10/21/2004 12:37:50 PM PDT by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: malakhi

You're right. I stopped caring after Boone's home run.


52 posted on 10/21/2004 12:38:24 PM PDT by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
>>>>I do not hate the Yankees.

Right.

>>>>Sometimes I even root for them.

Right. LOL

>>>>However, when your team has just lost, particularly in embarrassing fashion, you do not point to all the titles your team has won over the years. It's a losers response to talk about the past.

Baloney! In this case, you do point out the history of the Yankees, when the team is trashed from a bunch of lowlifes. This isn't the Detroit Psitons, LA Lakers or the Notre Dame either. This is the Yankees. Love'm or hate'm. I love'm and I'll defend them every opportunity I get. Losers always overlook history.

>>>>We're talking about this year.

I congratualed Boston and said they were the better team. If that's not good enough, tough.

53 posted on 10/21/2004 1:05:17 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: Reagan Man
Look for the Yanks to pick up at least two quality starters for next season.

Yah and I think Randy Johnson might be one of them, but Steinbreener didn't want to give Posada to the D'backs before the deadline so I'm not sure who he'd trade. The pitching dilemma might keep the Yanks out of the Carlos Beltran sweepstakes, though.

54 posted on 10/21/2004 1:11:09 PM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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To: Conservomax
>>>>The past is not relevant in this case ....

Well if it wasn't the Yankees who Boston beat, people wouldn't be reacting the way they are. This is an opportunity to trash the Yanks. I don't expect Yankee fans to sit back and allow the team they love and support to be trashed by people who hate them. I wouldn't expect that from the fans of any team, in any sport.

55 posted on 10/21/2004 1:12:29 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: embedded_rebel

That's Torre with two rs.


56 posted on 10/21/2004 1:14:10 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: Conservomax

Get over it. It's part of the game and most players would have done the same thing A-Rod did. If you believe otherwise, you're naive as they come.


57 posted on 10/21/2004 1:15:16 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: misterrob

Dittos on Angelos being an idiot.


58 posted on 10/21/2004 1:17:11 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: misterrob
I don't think Giambi is washed up at 34. And his use of steriods in the past, won't stop him from making a comeback. I'd say if he remains healthy, 25homers, 100rbi`s and a .300 average isn't out fo the question.

Bet you're a real fun guy to be around. Doom and gloomer! LOL

59 posted on 10/21/2004 1:22:45 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: Reagan Man

I'm lot's of fun....jumped up and and down and yelled after watching my Red Sox win.

and those numbers you show for Giambi simply aren't worth what they will be paying him over the next 4 years.


60 posted on 10/21/2004 1:24:41 PM PDT by misterrob
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