Zogby still shows it tied today - B46, K46

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[TBBT]

Zogby still shows it tied. I was hoping for a 1 or 2 point uptick for Bush since one weekend day has rolled off. Wonder were it will be when Sunday rolls off?....

[NeonKnight]

Link to the facts.

...and yes, your poll is calculated in. Seems to be an outlier.

[Joe Miner]

Kerry moves to his boyhood home in Mont St. Michel.

Zogby moves to Lebanon, becomes a pushcart seller of his excess supply of Kerry/Edwards 2004 buttons on the streets of Beirut.

[ClintonBeGone]

I hope you're not too sad when Bush wins re-election.

Why would I be sad? I am a Bush supporter. I'm just not a Bush supporter who's self esteem is so low I must tear others down to think I am boosting myself up.

[NeonKnight]

Sorry Correct Link

[KwasiOwusu]

"Show me a presidential election where he was wrong by a large factor" I don't have to. All I had to do was show you what Zogby did in the last TWO major elections we have had in this country. The 2002 national and state elections and the 2003 recall elections in California. That's it. You increasingly desperate DemiCRATS keep clinging to the fluke that Zogby had in 2000, which like I said, even a broken down clock is right twice everyday. What you guys outta do is forget about 2000 and concentrate on Zogby's abysmal record since then. If you have a guy wildly off the mark in the last two major elections in this country, why on earth would you continue to believe him, unless you want to keep hiding your head in the sand and try to hide from the inevitability of President George Bush's victory?? LOL!

[gbscott1954]

We have to remember a few things here:

1. Zogby can't predict know turnout. That is why he was off in 2002. He didn't accurately predict the intensity of GOP voters. That is why we don't need to wring our hands. Just get out and work,work, work! The name of the game this time, like most, is TURNOUT!

2. We should not get too down at a negative poll. But we should not get to giddy over a positive one.

3. As Rush tells us, the dirty little secret of this election is that Kerry has NEVER been ahead in this election. I know a couple of random polls showed him in the past a point or so up or several months ago. But the RCP average is telling. He has not been ahead, even when he was on a big time role.

So we should not be too done by this. Just 13 days to VICTORY!

[ClintonBeGone]

Thank you.

[neutrality]

For reference, Zogby's polls in 2000:
Reuters/MSNBC Tracking Poll conducted by Zogby International (N=approx. 1,200 likely voters)
11/4-6/00 48 46 1 5
11/3-5/00 46 47 1 5
11/2-4/00 44 46 1 5
11/1-3/00 42 46 1 6
10/30-11/2/00 42 45 1 5
10/29-11/1/00 42 45 1 5
10/28-31/00 41 46 1 4
10/27-30/00 42 45 1 5
10/26-29/00 42 45 1 5
10/25-28/00 43 44 1 5
10/24-27/00 43 44 1 5
10/24-26/00 45 43 1 4
10/22-25/00 45 43 1 4
10/22-24/00 45 42 1 4
10/21-23/00 42 44 1 5
10/20-22/00 42 44 1 5
10/19-21/00 41 45 1 5

[traderrob6]

Thanks Neon

[ClintonBeGone]

I don't have to.

Because you can't. You have no facts to back up your position that Zogby has been inaccurate in a presidential election. Thanks for the entertainment.

[NeonKnight]

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Poll	Date	Approve	Disapprove	Spread
RCP Average	10/14 - 10/18	49.4%	46.8%	+2.6%
NBC/WSJ	10/17 - 10/18	49%	47%	+2%
FOX News	10/17 - 10/18	49%	44%	+5%
Rasmussen	10/16 - 10/18	52%	48%	+4%
ABC/Wash Post	10/14 - 10/17	54%	45%	+9%
CBS News	10/14 - 10/17	44%	48%	-4%
CNN/USA Today/Gallup	10/14 - 10/16	51%	47%	+4%
Time	10/14 - 10/15	49%	49%	EVEN
Newsweek	10/14 - 10/15	47%	46%	+1%

[Joe Miner]

I still haven't seen a link to your facts.

From you own link they say the following a little further down:

A new Washington Post poll published on Tuesday, however, foundBush's job approving rating at 54 percent, and the president was holding a slender lead over Kerry, 50 percent to 47 percent, with independent candidate Nader getting 1 percent of the likely votes.

Why did you pick out the 44%?

[traderrob6]

Can you say CBS Outlier....try now it's not hard OUT-LI-ER

[MMkennedy]

Not only did he totally blow 2002, Zog was NOT even the closest in 2000. He was 2 points off. The closest, actually was CBS. Look it up. His competence is a myth and his capacity for objectivity is less than a farce.

Don't believe Zog's propaganda. The key problem in 2000 and the key problem today is that he undersamples republicans. He based his 2002 numbers on the 2000 exit polls. Since then, especially after 9/11 the number of people identifying themselves as Republican has increased by about 3-4%, something Zog is in denial about. This denial killed him in 2002 and it will most likely do so again in 2004.

This is very simple. Kerry is the 9/10 candidate and Zogby is the 9/10 poster. Both will lose.

[ClintonBeGone]

Interesting how the President's approval rating didn't invert until sometime around the middle of July.

[RightthinkinAmerican]

Yes, CBG does seem to take the Dim talking points.

[Dane]

Also Zogby considers, "fair" to be a negative.

It is my contention if Zogby would use approve/disapprove, half that said "fair" would say approve, the other half disapprove.

So take half the "fair" comment and put in the approve column, the other half in the disapprove column.

[traderrob6]

See post 39

[ClintonBeGone]

Why did you pick out the 44%?

To bolster a point I had made in a previous post.

[Petronski]

Wonder were it will be when Sunday rolls off?....

Slathered in Zogsauce as usual.