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Library delays showing Moore documentary after lawsuit (tax-exempt organization)
AP ^ | 10/19/04 | AP

Posted on 10/20/2004 1:39:56 AM PDT by Former Military Chick

ELYRIA, Ohio (AP) - The city's public library has postponed a pre-election screening of the President Bush-bashing documentary "Fahrenheit 9/11" after a Bush supporter filed a lawsuit to block the showing.

The library planned a late October public showing of the documentary and another film, "Fahrenhype 9/11," which criticizes Moore's movie.

The library postponed the showings until it could pay fees and obtain showing rights, said spokeswoman Debbie Pillivant. The delay had nothing to do with the lawsuit filed Monday in Lorain County Common Pleas Court, she said.

James Pengov of Elyria wants the court to block the showings.

"I want to stop the library from lending a platform of attack specifically against President Bush," Pengov wrote in the lawsuit.

Pengov, who said he's voting for Bush, noted that the library would be a polling place on Nov. 2. Pengov said he opposes the library showing movies critical of either Bush or his Democratic opponent, John Kerry.

Because the library is classified as a tax-exempt organization by the Internal Revenue Service, it is prohibited from engaging in any behavior that supports a political candidate or party, said Chris Kerns, an IRS spokesman.

Pillivant said the library had planned to show Moore's movie because dozens of people are on a waiting list to borrow it. "Just because we show a movie does not mean we endorse what it says," she said.

"Fahrenheit 9/11" was originally scheduled to be shown on Oct. 27, Oct. 30 and Oct. 31. "Farenhype 9/11" was to air Oct. 28, Oct. 30 and Oct. 31.

Pengov, 36, made headlines in August when he offered his vote in the presidential election to bidders on the Internet auction Web site eBay. The Web site removed his posting from the online market place, because it's illegal to sell one's vote.

10/19/04 11:34 EDT


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fahrenhype911; moore
So a public library was going to show this movie? So where are the movies critical of Kerry?
1 posted on 10/20/2004 1:39:57 AM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: Chieftain; Ragtime Cowgirl; gatorbait; GreyFriar; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; americanmother; ...

**ping** pass onto your Ohio Freepers


2 posted on 10/20/2004 1:41:00 AM PDT by Former Military Chick (REALLY REALLY Ticked OFF in the heartland)
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To: Former Military Chick

Score one for the Republicans!


3 posted on 10/20/2004 1:46:58 AM PDT by blondee123 (Proud Member of the FR Pajama Blogger Brigade - New Sheriffs in Town!)
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To: blondee123

I happen to live in Elyria. We're a small town of about 80,000 west of Cleveland. Mostly blue collar and very union dominated surrounded by farms. Between the steel mill closings of the 70's and its remaining effects, we have never completely recoved. Two small manufacturers announced closing earlier this week. Politics here have been dominated by dem's forever. Sherrod Brown our Congressmen doesn't spend all the money he raises for reelection and donates a percentage of it to the dem party.

All of that said, some hope is building to my city and county. My state rep is now a republican and he hopes to retain that office in this election. Our three person county commisioners have always been all dem and it looks as if that might change completely in this election. I truly hope it does and that brings some economic growth to our county.

I was amazed to see this in my local paper yesterday, there hadn't been a word before that I had seen. I guess I owe one to Mr. Pengrov. But, I am not sure what to think of someone that would sell his vote, even for a joke.


4 posted on 10/20/2004 2:37:48 AM PDT by FarmerW
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To: FarmerW
I'm worse off than you, live in Illinois & although there are many more Bush/Cheney signs in the burbs of Chicago, we'll never go republican with the Daley machine in Chicago & the new Gov. Blago in Springfield!

It hasn't stopped me from campaigning though, I am out there, picking up signs for people & distributing them all over my town, plus literature, I'm sure the libs are sick of me by now! LOL

5 posted on 10/20/2004 3:02:46 AM PDT by blondee123 (Proud Member of the FR Pajama Blogger Brigade - New Sheriffs in Town!)
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To: Former Military Chick

A library should not be showing either one of these either pro Bush or anti-Bush. If patrons are on a waiting list for the movie then they just wait until it's their turn. Do they show all the movies that have a waiting list? I doubt it.


6 posted on 10/20/2004 4:41:54 AM PDT by Raven281
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To: Former Military Chick

Playing "F911" WITH "Farenhype 911" would be fine. Why the screams to suppress?


7 posted on 10/20/2004 5:15:50 AM PDT by BillyCrockett
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Playing "F911" WITH "Farenhype 911" would be fine. Why the screams to suppress?

Sure. If it weren't a polling place. Showing pro- & anti- Kerry films isn't impartial. It ignores Bush and all 3rd party candidates. Such a program focuses only on one candidate, which is hardly what a polling place should be doing, regardless of the office for which the library will serve as a polling place.

8 posted on 10/20/2004 3:45:12 PM PDT by No Longer Free State
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To: FarmerW
I am Mr. Pengov,
I listed my vote for sale, not to actually sell it but to get some attention to the health care problems facing our nation. It worked as Mr. Kerry's first mention of health care was the evening my story went national. Of course, Mr. Kerry's plan to get drugs from Canada was shot down by officials from Canada.
As for the library, the injunction that I filed was first to stop the movie before the election (I got what I wanted, no showings till after the election) and second, to get the library to take steps to keep children out of the show without parental permission; It is after all rated R. (I lost)
The Elyria Library has promised me that even a 7 year-old is welcome to the show. Not that one would want to see it! The problem that I had is the show will be on a large screen right by the restrooms and the war footage is too graphic for children to process if they see it. There is a scene in the film that depicts a soldier touching the private parts of a corpse and making fun of it. Moore went so far as to sub title the clip so you would be sure to notice. Moore is a sick pervert and his film is a low blow to our military as well as the President.
God Bless Our Troops! Hats off to all of you that are also fighting to keep President Bush for 4 more years.
James Pengov
9 posted on 10/30/2004 5:29:26 PM PDT by JimPengov (We have enough youth, how about a fountain of smart!)
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Mr Pengov, Thank you for your reply. I am again very grateful for your work in stopping our library from showing this film pre-election. I am not shocked to hear of how it would be shown, but even more stuck by the stance you took and the importance of it.

About the Ebay, thank you for your explanation. I am not sure I would do it, but I think yours is a reasonable point.

My husband and I were talking just evening that we live in a changing area. Opportunity is here to advance and educate. We spoke specifically about Sherrod Brown. I think his time here is waning. Not this election cycle obviously, but the next one, I believe his seat can be had. Isn't it time someone stood at the Lorain docks and asked people what Brown has done for them? Years of his representation has brought them what?

He sits on the Commerce Committee's Subcommittee on Health but this county faces loss of physicians and a crisis of malpractice premiums. He sits on the House Energy and Commerce Committee but look at the nuclear plant out our back door. Brown is the ranking Democrat on the Energy and Commerce Committee's Subcommittee on Health but ask the people in Elyria with raw sewage in their basements backed up from an outdated water treatment plant if he is helping them live healthy lives...I digress..

Isn't it time?

All Elections are Local.


10 posted on 10/30/2004 6:01:00 PM PDT by FarmerW (Don't be a Koolaide drinker. We defeated the USSR, MSM is next.)
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To: Former Military Chick

How in the world can they call that thing a documentary? Documentaries are at least loosely based on fact. That thing is a piece of propaganda at best.


11 posted on 10/30/2004 6:20:12 PM PDT by Scutter
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