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Kerry’s Auxiliary Bishops
The American Prowler ^ | 10/20/2004 | George Neumayr

Posted on 10/20/2004 12:25:57 AM PDT by nickcarraway

The presidential race is full of religious ironies, pitting a Protestant who quotes the Pope against a Catholic who rejects the Pope. The Protestant -- campaigning on opposition to abortion and homosexual marriage -- will likely get the Catholic vote. The Catholic -- campaigning on embryo-destruction, partial-birth abortion, and the alternative lifestyles of pagan antiquity -- will get the mainline Protestant vote.

In one more irony and historical marker of clerical decadence, the Catholic candidate will receive a higher percentage of support from the Catholic episcopate than the Catholic laity -- the very episcopate Kerry has made a point of saying that he will ignore on matters of morality. John Allen of the National Catholic Reporter writes that "if the Holy See were to vote in a secret ballot for the American president, Kerry would beat Bush 60-40." Polling of American bishops would even be higher. Priests like Richard McBrien have appeared in clerical collar on national television to justify voting for Kerry. The dean of Notre Dame, which the bishops regard as their Harvard, recently published a piece saturated with third-rate casuistry urging Catholics to vote for pro-abortion Democrats.

Incapable of transcending long-elapsed stereotypes, the secular media cast Kerry's Catholic problem as a conflict with a reactionary hierarchy. Would that it were so. A few bishops oppose Kerry, but many more privately support him and have whispered against the handful of brave bishops who threatened to withhold communion from him.

Kerry's Catholic problem started not with the clergy but with the laity. The Roger Mahonys of the hierarchy are Democratic activists and dilettantes, not guardians of the ancient faith. (For more on Cardinal Mahony, click here.) They have no problem supporting an open heretic like Kerry, because their faith in Catholicism is as ambivalent as his. Kerry is their idea of a good Vatican II Catholic -- liberal on economics, avant garde on morality. Indeed, a loss for Kerry represents a loss for them. He embodies the liberal catechesis they have tried to drill into the laity for decades. If a majority of the Catholic laity vote against Kerry, it will be one more rude confirmation to Roger Mahony and company that their post-Vatican II project to liberalize the laity has flopped.

''We are looking at a broader picture, a more global picture,'' said Bishop Gabino Zavala, one of Mahony’s auxiliary bishops, to the New York Times. ''If you look at the totality of issues as a matter of conscience, someone could come to the decision to vote for either candidate.'' For the Democratic bishops, infanticide and minimum wage are weighted the same. Kerry knew early on that most of these bishops wouldn’t confront him, given their passivity and weakness for Democratic politicians who make the right social-justice noises from time to time. Kerry’s allies in the Democratic Party scrambled to produce a "Catholic Voting Scorecard" to show that he and other pro-abortion Catholics have adhered more closely to the positions of the "U.S. Catholic hierarchy" than to their Catholic Republican counterparts. By highlighting Kerry’s support for the liberal politics of the bishops -- on the Senate floor, he once read from their inane pastoral letter on Reaganomics -- the Democrats had hoped to cancel out the perception that Kerry was a heretic no self-respecting Catholic could vote for.

Kerry's plans to hide his heresies under Roger Mahony's Seamless Garment were blown out the water by the lay Catholic equivalent of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Numerous lay Catholic groups have exposed Kerry's Catholicism as a fraud and have coaxed out of timid bishops a few words of rebuke toward Kerry.

Not that the bishops aren't still constructing rationalizations for Kerry even after a debate before millions in which he misrepresented Catholicism wildly, managing to reject at least a third of the Ten Commandments. On Tuesday The Drudge Report had one of those blood-red headlines titled, "Vatican Denies It Responded To Lawyer Seeking Kerry’s Excommunication." This was a life raft the bishops were trying to throw the Kerry campaign. The story came from the Catholic News Service, the propaganda outlet the bishops use whenever they want to muddy an issue to the benefit of a pro-abortion Catholic.

Kerry has rejected Catholic teachings Martin Luther didn’t touch, yet CNS was frantic to dispel the notion that he is a heretic. "One Vatican official contacted by CNS said no church official had seriously approached the point of declaring Kerry a heretic. 'No, Kerry is not a heretic,' he said."

The National Catholic Reporter, which also speaks for many bishops (they advertise in its pages for chancery jobs) even as it wars on Catholic orthodoxy , is advising Kerry "to talk religion." It denounced the "small and narrow" group of Catholic laity opposing him and noted that many bishops support Kerry. But if Kerry takes its advice and campaigns on heretical Catholicism, where can he go without getting booed? Perhaps Roger Mahony, who encouraged his congregation to give Bill and Hillary Clinton a standing ovation on Palm Sunday during Clinton's race against Bob Dole, could arrange a town hall meeting at the Los Angeles Cathedral. But then Kerry had that vote sewn up a long time ago.


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To: nickcarraway

None that I've heard.


41 posted on 10/20/2004 2:57:30 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Yes, Lastiri has not shown up. Bishop Steinbock has a conflict of interest as the perponderance of facts makes it appear he has been protecting Lastiri. Is Steinbock gay and does Lastiri have something to compromise the Bishop? The vatican should investigate this and Mahony will not do it and could be culpable as well.


42 posted on 10/20/2004 3:07:58 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: Robert Drobot

Amen. The Roger Mahonys of the hierarchy are Democratic activists and dilettantes, not guardians of the ancient faith.


And to this:
It denounced the "small and narrow" group of Catholic laity opposing him and noted that many bishops support Kerry

"Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is
the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction."


43 posted on 10/20/2004 3:13:30 PM PDT by 2ThumbsUp
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To: Mat_Helm

Have you heard the Bishop comment on the no-show? And just think, he was known as the second most conservative bsihop in California (pre-Vigneron).


44 posted on 10/20/2004 3:23:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SuziQ

Hi. Which Catholic fantasy land do you live in?

I do not doubt for a second that there are a very few - a tiny minoritiy of US bishops - who have made some tiny baby steps of positive change. But the homosexuals and mental defectives are firmly in control of the infrastructure of the regular Conciliar Church in this land.

In the Arch of NY - which has a much mistaken reputation as a "conservative" diocese...ROFL.......lunatics are still being ordained, right now. The faculty of the seminary is NOT sound - despite more faculty shuffling in the last 20 years then I can keep track of! It poses a conservative face, but lacks any real substance.

Else how can you explain the weird, liberal, and frankly freaky ones who join the Fransicans Friars of the Renewal? They comprise half of the seminary students. And they are no good. Neither are many of the diocesan clegy ordained from there.

Let us not fool ourselves with appearances. Just because a young priest wears a biretta, or a lace trimmed surpice, or is garbed in a cassock is only window dressing. Does he actually know Catholic philosphy and theology? Or does he bop to the rythym of modernistic Teletubbie/Barney liturgical music as if there is nothing wrong with it?

I bring up the music for good reason. Nobody reads the lyrics, which brim with heresy and apostacy. And if these young priests like them - beware! They are not all that they are cracked up to be!


45 posted on 10/20/2004 3:29:04 PM PDT by thor76 (The power of Christ compels all....to serve His will and purpose. None may resist Him!)
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To: Robert Drobot; sdsurfer; Canticle_of_Deborah

I have one question for the US Bishops. I am of the opinion that it really does not matter who wins the election, in that neither major candidate will do anything to change the internal or deomestic policies of this nation - much less on abortion.

So here is my question: regardless who wins, will your diocesan Bishop call for public and private prayer, devotion, recitation of the rosary........for the conversion of the hearts of the President and members of Congress? For the salvation of their immortal souls? For a change of heart, and action on their parts to end abortion?

Frankly, I know what the answer will be. A resounding silence.

And the chalice, already filling to the brim and overflowing with the blood of those innocent babies will impell God to no longer restrain his wrath against the society of nations - and this disobedient land in particular.

We will reap what we sow.


46 posted on 10/20/2004 3:36:01 PM PDT by thor76 (The power of Christ compels all....to serve His will and purpose. None may resist Him!)
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To: nickcarraway

BTTT, great article!


47 posted on 10/20/2004 7:20:28 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: nickcarraway
President Bush: Shares Our Catholic Values

President Bush and John Kerry: On the Issues Important to Catholics

"Seismic" Catholic Shift to Bush [Insight ]

Catholics for Bush

Analyst cites abortion stance as some Catholic voters shift to Bush

Poll: Catholics Trending Towards Bush

Kerry Losing Ground Among White Catholics

Voting Our Conscience, Not Our Religion [Catholic Prof Says "Vote Kerry"]

Vatican: Kerry guilty of heresy; incurrs automatic excommunication

Should a Catholic Vote for Bush or Kerry?

Why is Bush getting the bishop's blessing?

Ambassador Ray Flynn in Cleveland 10/16/2004- "Vote 2004: The Catholic Factor"

John Kerry Flip-Flops on When to Use His Catholic Belief on Politics

Abortion is Turning Democrats Off to Kerry

Planned Parenthood Unveils TV Ads Backing John Kerry on Abortion

Spiritual Windsurfer [Kerry]

Kerry’s Auxiliary Bishops

48 posted on 10/20/2004 7:21:41 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: thor76
I am of the opinion that it really does not matter who wins the election, in that neither major candidate will do anything to change the internal or deomestic policies of this nation

So, I guess you'll be voting for Kerry?

49 posted on 10/20/2004 9:32:28 PM PDT by sinkspur ("If you're always talking, I can't get in a word edge-wise." God Himself.)
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To: sinkspur

Psssst....nobody's paying any attention to you.


50 posted on 10/21/2004 12:25:43 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: Salvation

Thanks for the links -- I had been pinged to the Windsurfer one and meant to read it, but got distracted and forgot. I'm glad I didn't miss it!


51 posted on 10/21/2004 12:40:52 AM PDT by maryz
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To: sinkspur

"So, I guess you'll be voting for Kerry?"

No, in actuality, I shall vote for Mickey Mouse. You see, he is the ideal political candidate. Everybody likes him, and so they do not care that someone else obviously pulls his strings and (literally) puts words in his mouth.

And I would write in Goofy as the Vice Presidential candidate. He is dumb, but honest.


52 posted on 10/21/2004 9:31:03 AM PDT by thor76 (The power of Christ compels all....to serve His will and purpose. None may resist Him!)
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To: thor76

I actually believe you.


53 posted on 10/21/2004 9:45:00 AM PDT by sinkspur ("If you're always talking, I can't get in a word edge-wise." God Himself.)
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