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MSNBC - Frank Luntz says - if the Prez is not up by at least 3 points in the Polls, he will lose...

Posted on 10/19/2004 7:39:42 PM PDT by TBBT

When asked - Frank said that the President has the momentum at the moment in the national polls. However, the race is really close in the Electoral College.

He said that due to increased voter registration and the last remaining undecided voters - who tend to break towards the challenger - he believes that Bush will need at least a 3 point lead in the popular vote (national polls) to win enough battle ground states to win the electoral college.

He states that conventional wisdom says it's one thing to register a lot of new voters, but it’s another to get them to the polls. However, he said he thinks this year is going to be different and therefore he is predicting a record turn out. He says this factor will favor Kerry, making up ground for Kerry by about 0.5%. He says that the remaining undecided voters breaking for the challenger will give Kerry another 2.5%.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: frankluntz; predictions
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To: jwalsh07

Regarding the broken glass thing, I heard on the radio that 75% of the electorate thinks this election will have a material effect on their lives, up from about 50% or less in previous elections. That portends a high turnout. Iraq is what is generating it I suspect, along with the stressing of lower middle class incomes and purchasing power after tax.


81 posted on 10/19/2004 8:34:21 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
I saw it. I don't believe it. If it were true, the numbers would be different in the aggregate. Bush can't by carrying Catholics, 25% of the Jewish vote, 40% of the Hispanic vote, and rounding up most of the evangelicals, and still be near tied with Kerry, unless, well the Torie types, have become a much larger segment of the population, and have done so rapidly

Yeah, very odd. But odder still are the polls showing Bush ahead with women and tied with men. Somebody is gonna be very surprised come election day.

Some day when I get to know you better I'll tell you what the Army said my IQ is. :-}

82 posted on 10/19/2004 8:35:33 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Always ask yourself, does this pass the Global Test?)
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To: ambrose; Dales

Thanks, I posted my view above. Dales' most excellent chart needs refinement, and commentary.


83 posted on 10/19/2004 8:36:20 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
 

Personally, I don't think there "really" are undecided voters at this point in time this year. People have had four years to make up their mind about President Bush and a year and one half to do the same with Genghis Khan.  It is my true belief that anyone still undecided is entirely too nuanced, picky or stupid to find a polling precinct on November 2nd, therefore, changing the heading of that proverbial third column heading from undecided to MENTAL-VOTER-ONLY!


84 posted on 10/19/2004 8:37:01 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Member of the PajamaNati for 1/6th of a year)
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To: rwfromkansas

Freeper Dales did the chart.


85 posted on 10/19/2004 8:38:27 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: rintense

I think most pollsters say they do. Zogby has and Charlie Cook has said so too. I have heard people here say they don't but I have never seen any backup.


87 posted on 10/19/2004 8:39:48 PM PDT by OneTimeLurker
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To: Torie

1944 election poll offers some interesting parallels.


88 posted on 10/19/2004 8:40:31 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: TBBT
Kerry is getting some rather unusual, but maybe not unexpected, help.

HAVANA, Oct. 19, 2004 -- A multitude of unlikely volunteers is working the phones for Sen. John Kerry in the swing state of Florida. His campaign is unaware of the support, as the volunteers do not live in the United States, but in Communist-run Cuba.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1250398/posts

89 posted on 10/19/2004 8:40:40 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: HawaiianGecko

Think of it this way. There are many cross conflicted voters in this election, and they are susceptible still to changing their mind. Obviously not my brothers and nephew (who think Bush is a clear and present danger) or I - and in my case I already voted, so if I go nutter, and need to be taken away in a strait jacket, it is too late for me to flip to the dark side as to my silly little meaningless vote in California.


90 posted on 10/19/2004 8:43:55 PM PDT by Torie
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To: TBBT

Bush is up nationally because he is winning by landslide margins in the South, but he could still lose the electoral college.


91 posted on 10/19/2004 8:44:26 PM PDT by Holden Magroin
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To: Luis Gonzalez

So Luis, what will be Bush's percentage of the Cuban vote in Florida this time? Just post the percentage.


92 posted on 10/19/2004 8:45:07 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Good to see you back by the way. I get withdrawal pains when my pals have to take involuntary leaves of absence.


93 posted on 10/19/2004 8:46:00 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie

Give me the six numbers for the Lotto while I type out my answer.


94 posted on 10/19/2004 8:46:18 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: TBBT

Could be true. The anti-Bush media is pouring it on. ABC's Nitghtline right now doing a show on Kerry accusing Bush of war mismanagement followed by visual argument saying Kerry is dead on correct.


95 posted on 10/19/2004 8:46:47 PM PDT by cookcounty (Kerry launched his career by trashing the VN Vets. He ends by trashing the NG. Such class.)
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To: Torie

Yeah well...my absence didn't improve Alan's poll numbers, so they let me back in.


96 posted on 10/19/2004 8:47:07 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

011351 - birthdate.


97 posted on 10/19/2004 8:47:36 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie

Cuban vote for Bush 2004--89%


98 posted on 10/19/2004 8:47:48 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Holden Magroin

He was already up by landslide margins in the South prior to the debates. The bump in polling numbers will translate into a bump in the electoral college in the next week.


99 posted on 10/19/2004 8:48:31 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: ambrose

Interesting, but in November 1944 the war was going splendidly. The Battle of the Bulge had not yet happened. The headlines were all Patton.


100 posted on 10/19/2004 8:48:56 PM PDT by Torie
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