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Is Oil Heading For $100? (Why has Wall Street missed it so badly?)
Forbes ^ | 10.19.04 | Dan Ackman

Posted on 10/19/2004 6:52:31 PM PDT by Truth666

NEW YORK - Yesterday, in writing about the rise in oil prices--which have roughly doubled in a year--I noted, "No one saw it coming." (See: "Oil Hits $55 Alarm; Greenspan Hits Snooze.")
As it turns out, a few people did see it. And now some of those seers are saying the recent "spike" is no spike at all, but the start of a long-term trend. It may be that the price of a barrel of oil is heading for $100, if not higher, by the end of the decade.
To be sure, the conventional wisdom is that oil prices, which fell a bit yesterday to about $53 per barrel, are going no higher and will likely fall back. That seems to be the view of Wall Street firms, most of which say as much in their research reports. Bear Stearns (nyse: BSC - news - people ), for instance, last month forecast a $25 price in 2005. Even relative "bulls" like Goldman Sachs (nyse: GS - news - people ) are talking about whether prices in the high $30 range might be sustained.

That investors as a whole see the current price jump as a blip is shown by the fact that, while prices of shares in oil companies like Exxon-Mobil (nyse: XOM - news - people ) or BP (nyse: BP - news - people ), and oil services firms, like Schlumberger (nyse: SLB - news - people ) or Transocean (nyse: RIG - news - people ) have risen, they have not risen by anything like the price of the oil they drill and sell.

"To the best of my knowledge, not once [since 1998 when oil was around $11 per barrel] has any Wall Street firm forecast oil prices to be on a yearly uptrend," says Stephen Leeb, president of Leeb Capital Management, a New York investment manager and author of The Oil Factor (Warner Business 2004). Why has Wall Street missed it so badly? Leeb suggests that the answer lies not in economics, but in mass psychology, specifically studies of social conformity.

Leeb himself is forecasting higher, indeed skyrocketing, prices. He is not part of a crowd, but he is not all alone either. He is joined by, among others, Matthew Simmons, chairman of Simmons & Company International, an energy banking firm in Houston. Simmons speaks of a phenomenon called "Peak Oil" and says it is "as inevitable as death," though, like death, predicting its precise timing is not easy. Leeb and Simmons point out that, unlike the oil crisis of the late 1970s and early 1980s, which was a political phenomenon, the current price increases are fueled by supply and demand, which are less transitory than politics.

What is the scenario in which oil hits $100 per barrel in the next five or six years?

Just as the current price increases are said to be fueled in part by rising demand from China and India, those countries will also play a large role in the long term. Leeb says that China and India now consume energy (not just oil, but all forms of power) at a per capita rate that is one half the world average. Compared to the rich nations like the U.S. and Western Europe, their per capita consumption is one-seventh as large. If these two countries become wealthy, as everyone expects they will, and merely start to consume like the rest of the world (forget about their consuming like the U.S.), that rise in demand will have a dramatic impact on world energy markets.

Leeb estimates that if China and India continue to grow, the demand for oil will rise by 6.1% per year. To meet such demand, the world would have to raise output by 43% by 2010 and to triple it in 20 years.

Is such an increase plausible? Simmons points out that, while new discoveries are certainly possible, even likely, 70% of the world's daily supply comes from fields that have been drilled for 30 years or more. Leeb adds that even Saudi Arabia, despite a stagnant economy, consumes 24% of the oil it drills. In order for it to boost production, it will have to consume a higher percentage of what it makes. As for the world's second largest oil exporter, Russia, if its economy weren't a basket case, it might be using its entire output internally.

Leeb says that during the last oil crisis, the world was producing at 70% capacity. Now it's at 99%. Because there is no slack in the system, every time there is a trial in Russia, a strike in Venezuela, a hurricane off Louisiana or a surge in violence in the Middle East, the oil markets react dramatically. The good news is that we are more efficient than in the 1980s, and we spend a much smaller share of gross domestic product on energy. But while demand may slack off short term due to slower growth, the longer term is troubling regardless of new production technology or far better conservation.

Where have we heard this before? In the 1970s and 1980s, some prognosticators spoke about the world "running out of oil." That prospect is not what drives the current fears. It is the apparently inevitable supply-and-demand driven market movements that may force the price of oil to $100. And that's a lot scarier.


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To: Truth666

``Higher oil prices are certainly inflationary,'' said Stephen Leeb, who manages $100 million at New York-based Leeb Capital Management, ...


That may be the SMALLEST 'Capital Management' firm outside of Spokane I've ever heard of. And in Spokane it would be small, very, very small. With 8 staffers - http://www.leeb.net/our_people.html - and maybe a million a year in gross revenues, how much does he make for himself?


21 posted on 10/19/2004 7:22:56 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. + http://www.alamo-girl.com/)
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To: oceanview

From what I read in the past, American wells need about $35 a barrel price in order to make a small profit due to enviormental regulation, I also recall wells being pluged because it cost more to pump than the market would pay.


22 posted on 10/19/2004 7:26:08 PM PDT by KingNo155
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To: zeugma
The out months rarely make headlines
23 posted on 10/19/2004 7:28:29 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: ARCADIA
Or we could just stop printing dollars hand over fist...
24 posted on 10/19/2004 7:29:50 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Truth666

Most soothsayers should be shot on site............


25 posted on 10/19/2004 7:34:40 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Truth666
Oh hell, when I signed on with an oil company 25 years ago, our annual forecasts predicted $100/bbl oil before 1990. What would that be in today's dollars, something like $175/bbl?

I've seen so many false predictions in my career that I don't believe anything anymore. Hurricane Ivan knocked off more than 1.5 million barrels of oil from the US market. We've recovered less than a third of it since, and the rest will take months because of the extensive damage to Gulf of Mexico offshore facilities.

But it will all come back on as soon as possible.

26 posted on 10/19/2004 7:35:55 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: proxy_user
Why don't you join the ownership society

I've always been suspicious of secret organizations like the Masons and civic clubs like Kiwanis. Would I have to learn a secret handshake or pay dues? ;-)

27 posted on 10/19/2004 7:41:27 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: zeugma
Well, this is as good a forum as any for my wild idea...and, please, chime in with your own, or just critique mine. :)

I propose that the Congress authorizes an award of one trillion dollars to the American(1) company that produces a clean, made man, affordable, plentiful, high performance, high efficiency fuel. My thoughts are that we will have to allow a time limited monopoly(2) to the American companies in order to get it in the supply lines and the crude based products out, taking all risks, consumer usage for a period of time (5 years?) then, release it to the world. That said, where does the money come from? A dedicated, in a lock box under the threat of the death penalty, tax? A national lottery? Sell George Soros and all the hollywierdos? Don't know. But I do know this (or think I do)...what is worse...to allow our economy to go down the tubes, allow other nations d e f a c t o control over us and our national security...or a tax that will enable us to do something about it, and go away when it's fulfilled it's purpose, also under threat of death penalty. :)


(1) Why American only? This is in the National Security interests of our country. It's not necessarily a commercial endeavor.
(2) The initial production, distribution, and use of this fuel should be, and will be, an experiment (like a beta test) we cannot encourage other Nations to utilize it until and when it proves to meet our pre-described specifications. :O) P
28 posted on 10/19/2004 7:42:41 PM PDT by papasmurf (G'me 4 more years of floppy ears!!!)
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To: papasmurf
a clean, made man,

Is that someone in the mafia who never committed a crime?

29 posted on 10/19/2004 7:45:15 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: Truth666

start drilling AMWAR


30 posted on 10/19/2004 7:45:49 PM PDT by GeronL (John Kerry believes in a right to privacy and in gay rights............ ask "fair game" Mary Cheney)
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To: JasonC
Or we could just stop printing dollars hand over fist...

If you do that you default on your debt, crash the world's capital markets, abandon international trade, and collapse our own government. Until we produce the stuff here, we either import it, or come to a complete and grinding halt.

Just during the month of August we had a trade deficit of over $60,000,000,000.00; that is enough revenue to generate 60,000 solid well paid productive private sector jobs for 1 year(including overhead, manufacturing costs, labor, R&D, piles of tax contibutions, and a substantial ROI). But, we decided to give it to China instead. That is the way it goes month after month, and year after year. This economic stupidity is destroying the US; we are committing economic suicide, in the name of "cheap products", which have proven anything but cheap.
31 posted on 10/19/2004 7:46:35 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Truth666
The figures that I've heard is that oil would have to reach $80.00 dollars a barrel to equal the price we saw during the Arab oil embargo of the early seventies, adjusted for inflation.

Here are some things I've gathered to help put this in perspective. Around 1998, oil went to $10 dollars a barrel. If you looked at the cost to produce a barrel of crude at that time, it was something like this. 50 cents to a dollar a barrel in Saudi Arabia. The next closest competitor outside the Middle East was in the North Atlantic Sea, at around 10 dollars a barrel. In Texas, a barrel of crude cost around 17 dollars a barrel to produce.

10 dollars a barrel was a thirty year low in 98. Adjust for inflation (2.5% *30 years) and the price would be about 17.50 a barrel, at the lowest price thirty years ago.

The average price of all those years was probably around 21 bucks a barrel. I hate to break the news here, but obviously Middle Eastern countries have one hell of an advantage cost wise.

We should drill in Alaska I guess, but it is not a long term solution. We will never be able to compete with the Middle East for oil or gas, nor will anyone else. They have reserves you haven't' even heard of yet. The Empty Quadrant in Saudi Arabia is not empty.

We will do better dealing with the Middle East then not until we figure out something to burn other then oil. That day will come, but it is still a long way off.

Iraq could produce near what Saudi is doing today, and in pretty short order (less then a year from one fellow I know who estimated 6 or 8 million barrels a day) They are the immediate future.
32 posted on 10/19/2004 7:53:14 PM PDT by planekT
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To: ARCADIA
This economic stupidity is destroying the US; we are committing economic suicide, in the name of "cheap products", which have proven anything but cheap.

The fundamental problem is that these decision are not being made by the people of the US or China but rather by our Central Banks.

Only a government is stupid enough to buy a US bond paying 4% when the currency has been debased at a average rate of 8% per year for a decade.

33 posted on 10/19/2004 7:55:39 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; RonDog

ping


34 posted on 10/19/2004 7:57:27 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: ARCADIA
We do not need to expand the money supply to buy foreign goods. We pay for foreign goods with domestic services, and by allowing foreigners to invest here. Inflating the money supply is a pure, free choice to have a currency that is worth less tomorrow and the day after that than it is today. Every worker produces, it has nothing to do with any magical process of assembling physical things out of other smaller physical things.

No human effort has created an atom of matter since the dawn of time. All we do is rearrange things into forms others like better. Anybody who does anything that pleases another person, enough that said other voluntarily surrenders cash for the results, is a productive worker. US workers annually produce $11 trillion in new value out of their direct efforts, and can afford to consume that much or any lesser quantity (to allow investment for future projects beyond those they can already accomplish), indefintely.

35 posted on 10/19/2004 7:57:45 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: AdamSelene235
Um, the government isn't buying said bonds, it issues them. Which means it is short them. Duh. If it has 20 of its own IOUs in one of its pockets, it is still short every other IOU it has ever issued.
36 posted on 10/19/2004 7:59:09 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: JasonC
Um, the government isn't buying said bonds, it issues them. Which means it is short them. Duh. If it has 20 of its own IOUs in one of its pockets, it is still short every other IOU it has ever issued.

Thanks for the tip. I was referring to the Chinese government.

37 posted on 10/19/2004 8:00:50 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: ARCADIA
"It is not the rising oil prices that bother me; its the ever shrinking dollar that expresses itself as a rise in oil price. If we don't start manufacturing soon we are going to need a wheelbarrow of dollars to buy a gallon of gas."

The US dollar is experiencing 'hyper-inflation' with energy prices, and could certainly turn into another peso as a useless marker of value. Manufacturing and programming jobs are feeling. Wage deflation is happening, bigtime.

If we don't counter this, it might be $5 a gallon for gas, and the wages around $10 an hour.

This is the worst case of course, but we must be prepared for it. Outsourcing of all industries will deplete the USA of wealth. The higher gas prices are a sign.
38 posted on 10/19/2004 8:02:22 PM PDT by Kornev
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To: zeugma

I predict oil under $35/bbl by the time of W's second-term Inauguration.


39 posted on 10/19/2004 8:03:01 PM PDT by RockinRight (Bush's rallies look like World Series games. Kerry's rallies look like Little League games.)
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To: Dog Gone

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=597505&section=news
6 October, 2004
As of Tuesday, damage from mid-September's Hurricane Ivan had kept closed 453,000 barrels per day from the U.S. Gulf of Mexico -- equivalent to about half the output of small OPEC producer Indonesia.


40 posted on 10/19/2004 8:04:36 PM PDT by Truth666
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