Posted on 10/19/2004 5:59:37 PM PDT by Notch
For all Vets and their children
USAA insurance is the best way to go.
You're correct. Isn't our tax credit for each child another form of welfare? IMO it should be limited to 2... period, no exceptions.
Sandler, Herb & Marion
Contributions to 527 Committees:
The chart below shows the total amount of money contributed since August 2000 to 527 committees by this individual donor.
MoveOn.org Voter Fund - $2,505,014
Joint Victory Campaign 2004 - $954,050
Marion and Herb Sandler, husband and wife and co-CEOs, have run Golden West Financial of Oakland for 40 years. Chronicle photo by Jerry Telfer
New Democrat Network reported raising $2.5 million and spending $2.5 million during the 3rd quarter. Large donors included: AFSCME $100,000; Andy Waters (TX) $100,000; Herb and Marion Sandler (Golden West Financial - CA) $494,428; David Bonderman (TX) $100,000; Bernard Schwartz (NY) $150,000; Mandel (TX) $100,000; Michael Kieschnick (CA) $102,500; Peter Angelos (MD) $100,000; Jeanne Levy-Hinte (NY) $225,000.
Is It just me , or is their something EVIL in that womans eye? Well I do admitt I see alot of evil in most of this bunch. We are in for a very hard fight folks.
Apparently the leader of the secret cabal is billionaire Peter B. Lewis, chairman of the Cleveland, Ohio-based insurance company Progressive Corporation.
They advertise like mad all over the radio here in CT, and I see their "Progressive" vehicles on the roads in this area nearly every day.
Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent miscellaneous ping list.
Boycott the Progressive Insurance Company ping!
I hope they learn from this loss of their money to stay out of politics with it.
When you drive on I 271 on the eastern suburbs of Cleveland Progressive insurance is a massive presence of buildings, real estate in prime locale...
Ha!...HA!...HA!...talk about flushing billions down the terlet!!!...As Archie would say.....
We have Allstate. Are they safe?
One more head's up for CA FReepers - Soros' interest in legalizing drugs extends to OUR state's ballot this year. He is the backer of the Proposition 66 to end 3-strikes laws except for violent crimes. His pal who fathered the prop is the father of a convicted felon who will be released along with thousands of other criminals if this proposition passes.
Strangely in the wording of the "reasons for" part of the proposition, drugs aren't mentioned. Just those poor people who needed to steal computer printers and golf clubs and got put away for life with the child rapists and grandmother killers.
CA voters: Don't forget WHY we have a 3-strikes law:
Polly Klaas.
bigger than God?
gimme a break....
they aren't bigger than a .357, let alone God.
God wouldn't lower himself to flick these pricks over with his left little toe.
straightening things out here... may be his inspiration, but OUR work. If these pukes fail to elect "lurch" and go on with their planned sponsorship of terrorist attacks on the freedom loving people of the USA this next quarter... the need to feel the full brunt of lady liberty's torch, working its way up their flaming asses.
we need some 're-education' camps for these guantanimo wannabes.
The New Yorker
THE MONEY MAN
by JANE MAYER
Can George Soross millions insure the defeat of President Bush?
On August 6th, a week after the Democratic Convention, a clandestine summit meeting took place at the Aspen Institute, in Colorados Rocky Mountains. The participants, all Democrats, were sworn to secrecy, and few of them will discuss the event. One thing that is certain, however, is that the guests formed a tableau that not many people would associate with the Democratic Party of the past. Five billionaires joined half a dozen liberal leaders in a lengthy conversation about the future of progressive politics in America. The billionaires were not especially close socially, nor were they in complete agreement about politics or strategy. Yet they shared a common goal: to use their fortunes to engineer the defeat of President George W. Bush in the 2004 election.
No one was supposed to know about this, an assistant to one participant told me, declining to be named. We dont want people thinking its a cabal, or some sort of Masonic plot! His concern was understandable: the prospect of rich men concentrating their wealth in order to sway an American election was an inflammatory one, particularly given the Democratic Partys populist rhetoric. This private meeting of plutocrats was an unintended consequence of the McCain-Feingold campaign-finance-reform law of 2002. Previously, wealthy donors had contributed soft money to the political parties, which controlled how the funds were spent. The reform legislation had banned such gifts, forcing donors to find new ways of influencing the political process.
The meetings organizer was Peter B. Lewis, the seventy-year-old reclusive chairman of the Progressive Corporation, an insurance company based in Cleveland, Ohio. He has spent much of 2004 discreetly directing millions of dollars to liberal groups allied with the Democratic Party, such as America Coming Together and MoveOn.org, while cruising the Mediterranean Sea on his two-hundred-and-fifty-foot yacht, Lone Ranger. The yacht has communications equipment that allows Lewis to monitor political developments in America while sunbathing off the coast of Italy. Lewis, a major backer of efforts to decriminalize marijuana, has helped underwrite campaigns to hold referenda on decriminalization in Arizona and California. (In 2000, he was arrested in New Zealand for possessing marijuana.) According to Lewiss friends, he concluded that it would be best to remain a shadow figure in the 2004 campaign; he has declined all requests for interviews.
Flying in from Arizona was John Sperling, an octogenarian businessman who in 1976 created the for-profit University of Phoenix. Sperling is also the co-author of a recent book, The Great Divide: Retro vs. Metro America, which suggests that the 2004 election is a contest between God, Family, and Flag folkswho live in the South, the Great Plains, the Rockies, and Appalachiaand forward-thinking metropolitans who support economic modernity, religious moderation, and excellence in education and science.
Herb and Marion Sandler, a California couple in their seventies, came to Aspen looking for ways to give back to a country that had allowed them to prosper. The founders of Golden West Financial Corporation, a savings-and-loan company worth seventeen billion dollars, the Sandlers are devoted to the idea of preserving progressive income taxes and inheritance taxes.
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In May, 2003, Bush had what seemed like intimidatingly high popularity ratings, and there was overwhelming public support for the war. But Soros had one of his anticipatory hunches that the Presidents support was a bubble that could burst. Moreover, he had the ego and the audacity to think that he could pop it. He commissioned two political researchers, Mark Steitz and Tom Novick, to determine whether it would be possible for Soros himself to exert political impact.
The following July, Soros invited a group of top Democratic activists to join him in the salmon-colored drawing room at El Mirador, his weekend estate in Southampton, Long Island, for the presentation of the consultants report. Steitz and Novick indicated that the 2004 election would probably be very close. The electorate was polarized, with only ten per cent of likely voters undecided. The best strategy, they said, would be to mobilize the Democratic base and persuade undecided voters with a state-of-the-art field operation. The plan was projected to cost at least seventy-five million dollars. As the researchers gave their presentation, Steitz recalled, Soros was very engrossed. He leaned forward when we were talking about getting out the vote, and asked, You mean you actually go door to door? All the practical aspects caught his imagination.
Under the new campaign-finance law, supporters could no longer give unlimited funds directly to the Democratic Partybut according to the consultants interpretation of the law they could funnel private contributions into allied independent groups. As the discussion proceeded, it was proposed that Soros provide enough funds to these groups to pay for field operations in six or seven of the seventeen states that were expected to be the most contested. Soros, Steitz recalled, insisted that funds be offered for all seventeen. He said, I dont want to build half a bridge! I want to do whats necessary to effect the outcome!
When I asked Soros why he hadnt just written a check for the whole seventy-five million, he said, I thought ten would do. Peter Lewis had agreed to match each donationand, Soros hoped, their example would get others to join in. They were doing what rich old guys should do when they think things have gone awry, Peter Lewiss son, Jonathan, told me. Theyre like a married couple, he said of the two men. If they have differences of opinion, they work it out.
David Magleby, a dean at Brigham Young University, who studies politics and money, said that Soross decision had a catalytic effect. He made himself highly visible in a way that was surprising, Magleby said. He became a lightning rod. It was a conscious decision to energize the Democrats. And Soros was right. Soros launched a counterattack that surprised the Republicans, and probably even the Democrats. The money was particularly important because it was so early. Its investment banking applied to politics.
In concert with Peter Lewis, Soros made large donations to ostensibly independent groups such as America Coming Together and the Young Voter Alliance. By this October, Soros had become one of the largest political-campaign contributors in American history, having spent an estimated eighteen and a half million dollars to defeat Bush.
Critics of Soros see his donations as brazenly hypocritical, considering that, until recently, he was a leading crusader for campaign-finance reform in America. Starting in the late nineteen-nineties, he donated eighteen million dollars to groups that supported the cause, and he is credited with having contributed significantly to the passage of the McCain-Feingold law. When Soros was asked about this reversal, he said, This is the most important election of my lifetime. These arent normal times. The ends justify every legal means possible.
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In early October, Soros told me, I feel that Kerry hasnt gone far enough about Iraq. What had the candidate failed to say? We need to convince the people of Iraq that were going to leave, Soros said. Hadnt Kerry said precisely that, during his first debate with Bush? Yes, well, he did, but we have to make clear under what conditions well leave, and what well leave behind. We have to put in place systems for allocating the oil revenues.
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The professionals have told me not to get mad but to get even, he said. Some fellow-activists on the Democratic side, such as Wes Boyd, the founder of MoveOn.org, had cautioned him about becoming a distraction in the campaign. Privately, some Democratic officials were more scathing. One worried that the Partys top funder was getting kooky, and said, He should shut up! Another suggested acidly, Why doesnt he just run for President himself?
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Bush poses a massive threat to everything that Soros values.
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One of Soross former associates, whose political views are more conservative, and who asked not to be identified, suggested that the financier, encouraged by like-minded liberals in New York, was mired in the same kind of fallacious group thinking that he had seized upon during his hedge-fund days. Hes lost his bearings, she argued. How can he credibly compare America to a police state?
At El Mirador on a sparkling day in late summer, Soros spoke darkly about the future. I find it really difficult to conceive of a Bush victory, he said. It would be so detrimental to the world, to the U.S., and to me personally.
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Soross social set also includes the rock star Bono and the United Nations Secretary-General, Kofi Annan.
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-ccm
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