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Team Bush declares war on the New York Times
Guardian ^ | October 19, 2004 | October 19, 2004

Posted on 10/19/2004 3:00:59 PM PDT by Former Military Chick

During the closing weeks of the 2000 presidential campaign, at a campaign rally, George Bush spotted a veteran political reporter and turned to Dick Cheney, standing next to him on the platform, to remark: "There's Adam Clymer, major league asshole from the New York Times." "Oh yeah, big time," replied Cheney. Unbeknownst to them, their locker room exchange was caught by an open microphone. Four years later, nobody connected with the Bush-Cheney campaign appears even slightly concerned about being caught denigrating the Times; they are more than happy to do it on the record, as the White House has all but declared open warfare on the nation's leading newspaper. The latest volley came over the weekend when Republican campaign officials accused the Times's Sunday magazine of fabricating a provocative quote from Bush in which he bragged - behind closed doors and speaking to wealthy supporters - that he would announce plans for "privatising of social security" early next year, after his re-election. When Democrats jumped on the remark, dubbing it the "January surprise", the Republican National Committee chairman, Ed Gillespie, dismissed the Times's work as "Kitty Kelley journalism", insisting Bush had never uttered the phrase attributed to him. But the Times stands by the 8,300-word story by Ron Suskind, author of The Price of Loyalty: George W Bush, the White House and the Education of Paul O'Neill, a revealing account of the former secretary of the treasury published earlier this year.

That confrontation, and the Bush campaign's harsh accusation that respected journalist Suskind and the editors of the Times are liars, come on the heels of a series of denigrations by the White House: the Times reporter was recently banned from Cheney's campaign plane; and in his acceptance speech before the Republican Convention Bush mocked the paper by distorting, out of context, one of its columnist's writings of almost 60 years ago. Early in his administration, Bush set the contentious tone when he broke with tradition by refusing to sit for an interview with the Times. He finally granted the paper a sit-down, just 30 minutes long, in August.

"Presidents like spin and secrets; journalists don't, so this is a relationship fraught with potential discomfort," says Times executive editor Bill Keller. He observes that the paper has dealt with difficult episodes with various White Houses in the past, but adds. "I admit we're puzzled over what seems to be a more intense antipathy at this White House, especially since the campaign heated up.

"I can only speculate, but some of it may be that they think whacking a big newspaper with 'New York' in its name plays well with the [conservative] base. Perhaps they think if they beat up on us, we'll go soft on them. Or maybe they have decided to blame the newsroom for our opinion pages, though they certainly know that the editorial writers and columnists operate completely independent of reporters and editors." (On Sunday, the Times published an endorsement of Senator John Kerry, in which it commented: "The Bush White House has always given us the worst aspects of the American right without any of the advantages. We get the radical goals but not the efficient management.")

The controversial quote from Suskind's story came near the end of a lengthy feature article, Faith, Certainty and the Presidency of George W Bush, which examines the extraordinary degree to which Bush and his senior aides rely on their "faith" and their "gut" to make key policy decisions, and how those who raise questions based on facts or "reality" are cut out of the inner circle. According to Suskind, Bush recently told a closed meeting of major contributors: "I'm going to come out strong after my swearing in with fundamental tax reform, tort reform, privatising of social security." Suskind reported that the statements were relayed to him by sources present at the event.

On Sunday the RNC sent out emails - one complete with Suskind's photo and voter registration information - that attacked him professionally and said the passages in question were "third-hand, made-up quotes" designed to "scare seniors." But the editor of the Times magazine, Gerald Marzorati, told Salon in an email: "Ron Suskind's reporting was carefully reported and vigorously fact-checked."

If Times readers did not already know the paper's relationship with the White House was in serious disrepair, they found out on September 18. That day, Times reporter Rick Lyman wrote a front-page piece about how, despite having been assigned by the country's most influential newspaper to cover Cheney's re-election campaign, he was not welcome on Air Force Two, where 10 seats were reserved for the travelling press corps. None was available for him, or for the previous Times reporter assigned to the Cheney beat. Lyman's article, headlined Chasing Dick Cheney, was written with a slightly tongue-in-cheek tone (as much irony as the still-staid Times allows) but could not mask the strain between the paper and the White House, the kind of rift usually kept from public view as administration and news officials exchange behind-the-scene phone calls to try to patch things up.

Cheney had already made clear this summer that he had no intentions of maintaining cordial relations with the Times when he blasted its coverage of the 9/11 commission as "outrageous" and "malicious."

And in August, during his convention acceptance speech just 10 blocks from the Times newsroom, Bush derided the paper, suggesting it was a fount of wrongheaded pessimism. "In 1946, 18 months after the fall of Berlin to allied forces, a journalist wrote in the New York Times: 'Germany is ... a land in an acute stage of economic, political and moral crisis. [European] capitals are frightened. In every [military] headquarters one meets alarmed officials doing their utmost to deal with the consequences of the occupation policy that they admit has failed.' End quote. Maybe that same person is still around, writing editorials."

Bush was referring to Anne O'Hare McCormick, the pioneering, Pulitzer prize-winning Times journalist. And he twisted her dispatch about Germany: in fact she was criticising the "moral crisis" in the British and French sectors while reporting that Americans were doing a better job of reconstruction. She also urged the US to commit more troops to the occupation. Times columnist Maureen Dowd, discussing the speech, wrote: "Bush swift-boated her."

"It takes a certain amount of gall to criticise the New York Times in the middle of Madison Square Garden, on the paper's home turf," says Susan Tifft, co-author with Alex Jones of The Trust: The Private and Powerful Family Behind the New York Times."

On one level the Times seems an odd choice for the White House's wrath: during the 2000 campaign, despite Bush's "asshole" remark, the paper's coverage of the candidate was considered to be among the most generous of any of the major dailies', particularly the work of Frank Bruni, the beat reporter who travelled extensively with the Bush campaign. In his book about that time, Ambling Into History, published in 2002, Bruni wrote that while watching the first debate from the audience, he thought Bush had done so poorly that he was sure he had lost the election. Yet Bruni never mentioned his sinking feeling to readers during his generally upbeat coverage of the Bush campaign. The Times was also very reserved in its coverage of the exposure during the final weekend of the campaign of Bush's old drink-driving arrest.

During the period leading up to the Iraq war, the Times was instrumental in the administration's political choreography of its case that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction, in particular that he was producing nuclear weapons. But this year, the newspaper felt compelled to essentially apologise for what amounted to its participation in an elaborate disinformation campaign. "The Times didn't cover itself in glory during that period," says Michael Massing, author of Now They Tell Us: The American Press and Iraq. "The paper", he says, "was far too credulous towards the administration during the run-up to the war. The irony is the Times helped the administration's case before the war."

The Bush White House's open feud with the Times represents a clear break with the tradition of most Republican presidents - including the current president's father - tolerating the major mainstream press outlets despite misgivings or unhappiness with their coverage. The days when the Times publisher Arthur "Punch" Sulzberger Sr travelled to the White House during the height of the Reagan administration for a cordial lunch with the president, his vice-president, George Bush Sr, and the secretary of state, George Shultz, are long gone. While President Nixon "had no love for the New York Times ... even he felt he had to deal with them. Bush officials do not feel like they have to deal with the gatekeepers," says Tifft. "They have taken advantage of cable channels and talk radio and websites that are sympathetic toward them. What they have basically done by words and deeds is to say to the New York Times: 'We don't need you. We can get our message out without you.'"

Bush and his campaign apparently see little political downside to a public fight with the allegedly liberal press. That very point was made in Suskind's Times magazine article, which quoted Bush political consultant Mark McKinnon as saying: "All of you ... up and down the west coast, the east coast, a few blocks in southern Manhattan called Wall Street, let me clue you in: we don't care. You see, you're outnumbered two to one by folks in the big, wide middle of America - busy, working people who don't read the New York Times or Washington Post or The LA Times. And you know what they like? They like the way he walks and the way he points, the way he exudes confidence. They have faith in him. And when you attack him for his malaprops, his jumbled syntax, it's good for us. Because you know what those folks don't like? They don't like you!"


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To: FreedomSurge; Former Military Chick
Bush should be very careful, otherwise the Times will start printing false, distorted, propogandistic stories about him.

So how would we be able to tell the difference between that and the bilge they've been printing about him for the last five years?

41 posted on 10/19/2004 3:31:07 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Former Military Chick
." But the editor of the Times magazine, Gerald Marzorati, told Salon in an email: "Ron Suskind's reporting was carefully reported and vigorously fact-checked."

SS. Like Jason Blairs' factual reporting!

42 posted on 10/19/2004 3:31:21 PM PDT by sausageseller
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To: Former Military Chick
George Bush spotted a veteran political reporter and turned to Dick Cheney, standing next to him on the platform, to remark: "There's Adam Clymer, major league asshole from the New York Times." "Oh yeah, big time," replied Cheney.

I had forgotten about that. Man that's funny!

"That confrontation, and the Bush campaign's harsh accusation that respected journalist Suskind and the editors of the Times are liars, come on the heels of a series of denigrations by the White House: the Times reporter was recently banned from Cheney's campaign plane; and in his acceptance speech before the Republican Convention Bush mocked the paper by distorting, out of context, one of its columnist's writings of almost 60 years ago. Early in his administration, Bush set the contentious tone when he broke with tradition by refusing to sit for an interview with the Times. He finally granted the paper a sit-down, just 30 minutes long, in August.

Blah Blah Blah! If you whine a little more maybe someone will give you a quarter, so you can call someone who gives a f***!

"Presidents like spin and secrets; journalists don't, so this is a relationship fraught with potential discomfort," says Times executive editor Bill Keller.

WTF is that?! You just disgust me! I wouldn;t see fit to wipe my underside with your lousy paper.

"I can only speculate, but some of it may be that they think whacking a big newspaper with 'New York' in its name plays well with the [conservative] base.

What a brainiac! I think it plays well not only with the conservative base but to anyone who would like to hear an unbias opinion without a definite anti-GOP agenda!

"Bush recently told a closed meeting of major contributors: "I'm going to come out strong after my swearing in with fundamental tax reform, tort reform, privatising of social security."

GOOD! I don't think he'll go as far as I'd like but I'll take whatever he's willing to do at this point.

" Times readers did not already know the paper's relationship with the White House was in serious disrepair....."

Keep whining! liberals are real good at that! In fact liberals whine better than any conservative I've ever met.

This article is just unbelievable. OK I'll just comment on these last two things.

"The Bush White House's open feud with the Times represents a clear break with the tradition of most Republican presidents"

Awww poor baby! Maybe your Mama can go talk to the White House and patch things up for you!

"Bush and his campaign apparently see little political downside to a public fight with the allegedly liberal press.

What tipped you off Sherlock?
43 posted on 10/19/2004 3:32:39 PM PDT by elmore
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To: Former Military Chick
"Ron Suskind's reporting was carefully reported and vigorously fact-checked."

Mmmm Hmmm, so is Pee-tuh Lemmings, Tom Jokaws and certainly all of Dan Blathers too,right?

44 posted on 10/19/2004 3:33:25 PM PDT by Pagey (Hillary has been eerily silent lately, just like when she ran the War Room in the West Wing in 98,99)
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To: FreedomSurge
Bush should be very careful, otherwise the Times will start printing false, distorted, propogandistic stories about him.

No way. That would never happen, not in the good ol' US of A.

45 posted on 10/19/2004 3:33:29 PM PDT by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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To: FreedomSurge

They gonna print BullSh*t lies anyway. Screw em !


46 posted on 10/19/2004 3:34:27 PM PDT by JessieHelmsJr
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To: sneakers

bump!


47 posted on 10/19/2004 3:36:08 PM PDT by sneakers
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To: JessieHelmsJr
"I can only speculate, but some of it may be that they think whacking a big newspaper with 'New York' in its name plays well with the [conservative] base.

Wow. They're that out of touch.

48 posted on 10/19/2004 3:38:17 PM PDT by paulsy
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To: Former Military Chick
>>>So the Guardian is reprinting that the Bush Team is at war with the NYT, well it is about time. <<

The Guardian has a campaign going to have British Bush haters write US citizens asking them to vote for Kerry. Many have shown up in Ohio!

Hey Guardian; we're at war with you too!

49 posted on 10/19/2004 3:40:03 PM PDT by HardStarboard
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
hits the fan on 11/2/04.

...and keeps getting pureed until around the time of the Rose Bowl.

50 posted on 10/19/2004 3:40:18 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Democrats: appear in September, leavin' November 3 - worse than a 1-night stand...)
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To: Former Military Chick

Everytime I hear that "Big Time" it makes me laugh. Four More Years!!!


51 posted on 10/19/2004 3:40:18 PM PDT by NewYorker
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To: Former Military Chick

I clearly remember this:

"... George Bush spotted a veteran political reporter and turned to Dick Cheney, standing next to him on the platform, to remark: "There's Adam Clymer, major league asshole from the New York Times." "Oh yeah, big time," replied Cheney. "

I thought it was hilarious. Truth is a scary thing to liberals. Clymer is a MAJOR one.


52 posted on 10/19/2004 3:44:09 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
"Ron Suskind's reporting was carefully reported and vigorously fact-checked."

Well, at least as well as Dan Rather's stuff."

53 posted on 10/19/2004 3:45:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (THE MAN will keep you down, until you become a MAN.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Son-of-a bitch = Trumanism

Asshole = Bushism

Its official!

Great read!


54 posted on 10/19/2004 3:46:50 PM PDT by Delta 21 (MKC USCG -ret)
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To: Former Military Chick

"That day, Times reporter Rick Lyman wrote a front-page piece about how, despite having been assigned by the country's most influential newspaper to cover Cheney's re-election campaign, he was not welcome on Air Force Two, where 10 seats were reserved for the travelling press corps. None was available for him, or for the previous Times reporter assigned to the Cheney beat. Lyman's article, headlined Chasing Dick Cheney, was written with a slightly tongue-in-cheek tone (as much irony as the still-staid Times allows) but could not mask the strain between the paper and the White House, the kind of rift usually kept from public view as administration and news officials exchange behind-the-scene phone calls to try to patch things up. "

I LOVE IT!

WHen they can't get interviews the subscription rate goes DOWN. In essence Bush is denying them $$$ since they won't have the latest.


55 posted on 10/19/2004 3:47:45 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Former Military Chick

"Cheney had already made clear this summer that he had no intentions of maintaining cordial relations with the Times when he blasted its coverage of the 9/11 commission as "outrageous" and "malicious." "

Thoroughly enjoying this article.

Bush/Cheney aren't playing THEIR game. NO kiss and making up here! Love it.


56 posted on 10/19/2004 3:50:55 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Former Military Chick
If I had no idea who to vote for, I'd vote for the opposite of what the Slimes says.

The NY and LA Slimes sucks. Two worst papers in America. Even worse than my local rag.

57 posted on 10/19/2004 3:51:01 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Dead or alive, I got a .45 - and I never miss!!!" - AC/DC - Problem Child)
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To: Former Military Chick

It's NO secret! Voters knew this when they VOTED FOR HIM!

"I'm going to come out strong after my swearing in with fundamental tax reform, tort reform, privatising of social security." Suskind reported that the statements were relayed to him by sources present at the event.

From the NYT's you'd think it was some kind of a conspiracy.


58 posted on 10/19/2004 3:52:35 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Former Military Chick

Every then I get calls from the NYT's to try their paper with a cheap rate. I told them to stop calling me. It's nothing more than a liberal rag. They told me "*I* sucked" and hung up the phone.

They still call once in a while - gluttons for punishment ... and as soon as they identify themselves I hang up.


59 posted on 10/19/2004 3:55:24 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Former Military Chick

"What they have basically done by words and deeds is to say to the New York Times: 'We don't need you. We can get our message out without you.'" "

YUP! And the NYT doesn't get it! Liberals are dense.


60 posted on 10/19/2004 3:56:52 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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