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It's hard to condemn the reactions of a parent whose son/daughter has been slaughtered on the battle field. And no doubt President Lincoln, President Roosevelt, Tony Blair, and all the rest of the wartime natonal leaders received the same kind of anguished outcry. It's another one of the wonders of our nation that this voice, too, can be heard without retaliation.

But I agree with Rush...this group does NOT speak for me.

1 posted on 10/19/2004 9:21:41 AM PDT by Grendel9
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You are correct. The problem I have is, although they aren't subject to retribution for their opinions, they also are not subject to rebuttal by the mainstream media. They are given all the time and exposure they want without fear of being confronted by those who happen to disagree with them.


3 posted on 10/19/2004 9:27:38 AM PDT by Russ
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nothing a shotgun can't cure.


4 posted on 10/19/2004 9:28:29 AM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (You can't ride home on a bowl of goat.. I've always said that.)
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The son or daughter "slaughtered" on the battlefield VOLUNTEERED to fight for the United States. To apologize for their being there denigrates their very honor. To apologize for the United States liberating Iraq from a cruel and vicious dictator is as insane as the U.S. apologizing to the Jews for liberating the concentration camps. These people are I N S A N E. May God stop up their foolish desecration.


6 posted on 10/19/2004 9:29:42 AM PDT by Californiajones ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy" - Thomas Aquinas)
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This kind of crap obviously sends the wrong message to those who want ALL AMERICANS dead. I feel for Mr. Berg and his family, but people like him seem to have forgotten all about the other Americans that have died on 9/11 and before at the hands of Muslim terrorists.
7 posted on 10/19/2004 9:31:06 AM PDT by drypowder
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It's hard to condemn the reactions of a parent whose son/daughter has been slaughtered on the battle field

Depends. I have no sympathy for and grant no leway to Nick Bergs father. None.

8 posted on 10/19/2004 9:31:32 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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There's grief, and then there's becoming part of the problem. Their misguided, thoughtless actions soil the legacy of their capitalist son who wen to Iraq of his own accord. The real issue is that the Bergs failed as parents (by the standards they live by), and have enormous guilt. Most people see Nick Berg's death as further proof of why we fight in Iraq. These people simply can't look themselves in the mirror and admit their own son didn't but into their claptrap, and now he's dead... God rest his soul.


9 posted on 10/19/2004 9:31:53 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("...upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.")
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The same lefty wackos were crying that 125,000 people were dying every year as a result of the embargo. Now that the embargo is over and everyone has food, kids have vaccines and there are no more torture prisons we should apologize?


10 posted on 10/19/2004 9:33:13 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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I can condemn anybody that interferes with life and liberty. Nick Berg's father is not so innocent. It is my suspicion that he sent his son over there to do psy-ops, as this seems to be a growing cottage industry among the Left. Japan, Italy, etc. Send over peaceniks and play hostage, then come back and say you were released because you "negotiated" with them. I'm still waiting for the final verdict on the last British hostage that was beheaded. Same kinda mixed message going on with him, as well./rant


12 posted on 10/19/2004 9:35:19 AM PDT by mabelkitty (W is the Peoples' President ; Kerry is the Elite Establishment's President)
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What these people do encourages the enemy. It is treasonous as far as I'm concerned. It is akin to spitting on the graves of those brave soldiers who have died in combat defending their right to say such things. And it is a slap in the face of those of us who have lost loved ones in war. These people are disgusting and they should be ashamed of themselves.

Just because a person has the right to say something doesn't mean they have to. Sorry for the rant, but this stuff hits a raw nerve.

13 posted on 10/19/2004 9:37:18 AM PDT by dha (The safest place to be is within the will of God.)
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I sent the Fellowship my response to their apologies:

We're sorry American soldiers are dying for your freedom.
We're sorry American soldiers are rebuilding your country to a state it has never experienced before.
We're sorry American soldiers have rebuilt your schools, so your kids can learn something other than pulling a trigger.
We're sorry America is sending billions of dollars to help out a country that has never supported us in the past.
We're sorry America has to do what so many other countries in the world will not.
We're sorry America is hated all over the world, much of which we freed from tyrannies of their own.
We're sorry America doesn't want to drop our pants in the cold international breeze, just to get our a$$ kicked.
We're sorry America has a strong President, who won't let our enemies gather in the bushes to hit us again, when we're not looking.
We're sorry America tolerates Islam, though the reverse doesn't seem to be true.
We're sorry American technology is making your lives better.
We're sorry America has freed countries all over the world, but hasn't kept any of them for our own.
Therefore, if you'd like us to act differently, let us know.
15 posted on 10/19/2004 9:41:47 AM PDT by hyperpoly8 (Illegitimati Non Carborundum)
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Right now, rush is playing a tape where Kerry is talking to Hatian supporters and then suddenly starts SPEAKING IN FRENCH!!!

It is really eerie.
16 posted on 10/19/2004 9:42:41 AM PDT by freestyle
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Right now, rush is playing a tape where Kerry is talking to Haitian supporters and then suddenly starts SPEAKING IN FRENCH!!!

It is really eerie.
17 posted on 10/19/2004 9:42:45 AM PDT by freestyle
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Nick Berg's father is not honoring the memory of his son by betraying his country and giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Rush is right, it is a viceral reaction. I simply cannot reconcile this in my mind. Berg's family has suffered a great loss, but how many more will suffer losses because of these actions and the actions of the others? Totally inexcusable.


18 posted on 10/19/2004 9:43:09 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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This will go from their lips to Al Jazeera's screen.
20 posted on 10/19/2004 9:44:50 AM PDT by colorado tanker ("medals, ribbons, we threw away the symbols of what our country gave us and I'm proud of that")
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I think Nick Berg's father is going through a form of Stockholm Syndrome.


25 posted on 10/19/2004 9:50:16 AM PDT by JennyG
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The FOR is an old organization -- co-founded in 1914 by a Quaker and a Lutheran as a pacifist organization. I think it's fair to suggest that they are against the war in Iraq not because of the particulars of that war but because they are, on principle, against all war.


26 posted on 10/19/2004 9:50:39 AM PDT by megatherium
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This is on their website:


29 posted on 10/19/2004 10:01:07 AM PDT by IamHD
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Actually, its is easy to condemn the reactions of a parent, like Mr. Berg, who were murdered. A big mistake of liberals is that you cannot gain honor by proxy - just because someone in your family was brave and honorable does not mean that you are as well. Furthermore, I would say that Mr. Berg is dishonoring and politicizing the death of his son which makes him in Lynn Cheney's words, "not a good man".

Gold Meir said once that there would be peace in the mid east when Palestianians loved their children more than they hate the Jews. In this case, Mr. Berg hate American and Hate Bush more than he loved his son.

30 posted on 10/19/2004 10:01:34 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (I am poster #48)
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Nick Berg's dad is a lifelong professional putz.....very sorry.


(and I will always wonder exactly what was Nick up to over there)


31 posted on 10/19/2004 10:03:47 AM PDT by wardaddy
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It's hard to condemn the reactions of a parent whose son/daughter has been slaughtered on the battle field.

Not for me.

32 posted on 10/19/2004 10:06:17 AM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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