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ZOT!! Without a Doubt
NYTimes Magazine ^ | October 17, 2004 | Ron Suskind

Posted on 10/18/2004 10:56:56 AM PDT by jiswalsingh

A couple of excerpts from "Without a Doubt" in NYTime's Ragazine:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?pagewanted=1&oref=login

The aide [to Bush] said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

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And for those who don't get it? That was explained to me in late 2002 by Mark McKinnon, a longtime senior media adviser to Bush, who now runs his own consulting firm and helps the president. He started by challenging me. "You think he's an idiot, don't you?" I said, no, I didn't. "No, you do, all of you do, up and down the West Coast, the East Coast, a few blocks in southern Manhattan called Wall Street. Let me clue you in. We don't care. You see, you're outnumbered 2 to 1 by folks in the big, wide middle of America, busy working people who don't read The New York Times or Washington Post or The L.A. Times. And you know what they like? They like the way he walks and the way he points, the way he exudes confidence. They have faith in him. And when you attack him for his malaprops, his jumbled syntax, it's good for us. Because you know what those folks don't like? They don't like you!" In this instance, the final "you," of course, meant the entire reality-based community.


TOPICS: Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: iamatroll; suskind; troll; zot
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1 posted on 10/18/2004 10:56:56 AM PDT by jiswalsingh
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To: jiswalsingh

Welcome to FR!


2 posted on 10/18/2004 11:01:23 AM PDT by The G Man (George W. Bush: "Got wood?")
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To: jiswalsingh

"In this instance, the final "you," of course, meant the entire reality-based community."


In this case "reality" seems to be a rather subjective term.


3 posted on 10/18/2004 11:02:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The economy won't matter if you're dead.)
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To: cripplecreek

It is the term that Bush aide used, after all.


4 posted on 10/18/2004 11:03:11 AM PDT by jiswalsingh
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You forgot to also post The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and The Jayson Blair Reader.
5 posted on 10/18/2004 11:04:01 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: cripplecreek

Jeez, I wonder what meds they take to find 'reality', or is it just something in the water?


6 posted on 10/18/2004 11:04:38 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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To: jiswalsingh

None of it makes sense anyway. Typical of most of the crap that oozes out of the Times.


7 posted on 10/18/2004 11:04:54 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The economy won't matter if you're dead.)
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To: jiswalsingh
John Kerry served in Vietnam?!!!

No Way!

8 posted on 10/18/2004 11:07:41 AM PDT by The_Victor (Calvin: "Do tigers wear pajamas?", Hobbes: "Truth is we never take them off.")
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9 posted on 10/18/2004 11:07:46 AM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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10 posted on 10/18/2004 11:09:13 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("...upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.")
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To: jiswalsingh

The faith of Left is socialism is a lot harder to justify that Bush's faith in God.

What a jerk.


11 posted on 10/18/2004 11:09:21 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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That worm won't fish...no matter how long and far you TROLL with it.


12 posted on 10/18/2004 11:10:10 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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13 posted on 10/18/2004 11:11:40 AM PDT by martin_fierro (I'm stuned, stuned!)
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14 posted on 10/18/2004 11:11:54 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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Ah, Ozone........


15 posted on 10/18/2004 11:11:59 AM PDT by Sub-Driver (Unelect All NJ Politicians....)
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16 posted on 10/18/2004 11:12:20 AM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic (Kerry/Edwards: Dope is on the way!)
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To: jiswalsingh

Um, he's right.
We don't like you and your ilk.


17 posted on 10/18/2004 11:13:17 AM PDT by mabelkitty (W is the Peoples' President ; Kerry is the Elite Establishment's President)
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They like the way he walks and the way he points, the way he exudes confidence. They have faith in him. And when you attack him for his malaprops, his jumbled syntax, it's good for us. Because you know what those folks don't like? They don't like you!" In this instance, the final "you," of course, meant the entire reality-based community.

"You" means all you left-wing, self-righteous, treasonous racists, who think that sacrificing the lives of Americans for feelgood policies that you have no intention of applying to your selves is OK!

18 posted on 10/18/2004 11:13:25 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: lady lawyer

That's "The faith of the Left IN socialism . . ."


19 posted on 10/18/2004 11:13:37 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: jiswalsingh
Wanna meet my working dog?

GET 'IM, TWINKLES!

20 posted on 10/18/2004 11:13:38 AM PDT by Old Sarge (K'nigget-Commander. Sergeant-At-Arms, Sentinel of Meetingplaces both Clandestine and Public.)
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