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CHINA: What you can't do in a mosque
forum18.org ^ | 28 September 2004 | Igor Rotar, Magda Hornemann

Posted on 10/17/2004 10:41:41 PM PDT by Destro

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1 posted on 10/17/2004 10:41:41 PM PDT by Destro
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To: Destro

It doesn't mean anything if it's not enforced.


2 posted on 10/17/2004 10:43:22 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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I think it is enforced.


3 posted on 10/17/2004 10:44:11 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: FreedomCalls

broken clock


4 posted on 10/17/2004 10:49:15 PM PDT by John Will
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Plenty of crying libs in Amnesty Int reporting the Chinese rooting out Islamics in the border areas of Western China.
5 posted on 10/17/2004 10:50:19 PM PDT by endthematrix (Bad news is good news for the Kerry campaign!)
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To: Destro
Some common sense prohibitions by the Chinese. Wish we could enforce the same here in Mosques. Alas, in this case we are doomed by our system to clean up messes versus prevent them from occurring.


6 posted on 10/17/2004 10:50:57 PM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Democrats: The blind leading the stupid enabling the evil.)
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To: Destro

This is good. Now the Muslims will start bombing buses and cars all over China, and we will gain yet another ally in the War Against Islam.


7 posted on 10/17/2004 11:01:54 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Destro
They have the same sort of rules for Christians and Buddhists.

ChiComs historically have been worse than the Jihadists.

Uighurs have not been radical islamicists at all historically. The communists still took them over and banned their moderate religion and killed huge amounts.

The communists had no right to take over that region.

In this case the bad guys are not the Muslims.

8 posted on 10/17/2004 11:03:27 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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The Communists did not take these lands per say - the have always been part of China's empire. You kind of skewed history a bit - the Muslims last went on a jihad against Qing Dynasty China in the 1850s-1860s. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.


9 posted on 10/17/2004 11:17:30 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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You got it backwards - in the 90s Muslims were doing that and these rules went im effect.


10 posted on 10/17/2004 11:20:46 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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The Communists did not take these lands per say - the have always been part of China's empire

Big lie. You really reflect the ChiCom worldview I've noticed. Why is that?

11 posted on 10/17/2004 11:21:01 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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Delusional are you?

Xinjiang has either been inside China or Russia's empire. You claim otherwise?


12 posted on 10/17/2004 11:24:02 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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From the same site you reference for this article:

In the first half of 2004 alone, hundreds of believers have been arrested and detained. In recent incidents, more than 100 house church leaders were arrested by public security officers and military police on 6 August in Tongxu County, Kaifeng City, Henan Province. The same day, police arrested eight Roman Catholic priests and seminarians in Quyang County, Shijiazhuang Village, Hebei Province.

Meanwhile, public security agents throughout China maintain active surveillance over Falun Gong practitioners, punctuated by periodic crackdowns. According to the Falun Gong, over 100,000 practitioners have been sent to reeducation-through-labour (laojiao) camps operated by the public security system. In Xinjiang and Tibet, public security officers work against individual believers and organisations in the name of countering "terrorism", "splittism" and "extremism".

What you posted has very little to do with antiterrorism or antijihadism. The same policies are enacted for Falun Gong, Christianity (Catholicism and house church prtestantism), Buddhism and any other religious belief.

The policies against any religions or like one pre-date 911 and were not enacted in response to 911.

Communist states have always had such polcies to control religion.

The day befoe 911 the commies were trying to hype investment in Xinjiang and an article in a Hong Kong daily stated that there is no terrorism in Xinjiang.

Then, immediately after 911 the communists began talking about how all their "splittists" were terrorists and their figfht against splittists was part of the war on terror and that included Taiwan and Tibet as well as Xinjiang.

The ChiComs are opportunists and propagandists. They have in reality done more to support jihadists historically and currently in their recent support for pre-911 taliban, support the Hussein and current support for the Iranian regime.

13 posted on 10/17/2004 11:32:11 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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You got it backwards - in the 90s Muslims were doing that and these rules went im effect.

Overt lie. The communists in China (and every country where communists took over) instituted such policies against any religion in the nation they took over.

Why do they have harsher polcies against house Church Christians? Have the Christians been bombing etc...

The communists took over the region known as Xinjiang or East Turkestan in about 1950 and implemented these sort of policies. Today they are much less harsh than decades ago.

Why have you decided to start spreading minsinformation meant to benefit the CCP?

14 posted on 10/17/2004 11:36:55 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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"Among banned activities are: teaching religion "privately"; allowing children under 18 to attend a mosque; allowing Islam to influence family life and birth planning behaviour; propaganda associated with terrorism and separatism........"

The Chinese are smarter than the rest of the world in this regard. They may have the last laugh if the rest of us don't wake up.
15 posted on 10/17/2004 11:38:15 PM PDT by Jaysun (HAVE YOU GIVEN ALL YOU CAN TO RALPH NADER??????)
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teaching religion "privately";

This also means teaching the Bible. Many more Christians than Muslims are jailed or tortured for violating these standard communist laws.

Do you think that is smart?

16 posted on 10/17/2004 11:43:00 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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Overt lie. The communists in China (and every country where communists took over) instituted such policies against any religion in the nation they took over.

Huh? You deny that there has been violence and bombings in the NW of China because of Muslim Separatists?

17 posted on 10/17/2004 11:43:48 PM PDT by killjoy (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain)
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Xinjiang has either been inside China or Russia's empire

What does Xinjiang mean and when was it given that name?

18 posted on 10/17/2004 11:44:45 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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Huh? You deny that there has been violence and bombings in the NW of China because of Muslim Separatists?

No.

You overtly lied in saying policies repressive of Islam were put in place in response to acts of violence on the part of Uighurs against the government.

The fact is, and what you overtly lied about is, that repressive policies are in place for not just Islam but for Christianity, Buddhism and any other religion.

And you overtly lied in stating these policies were put in place in the 1990's or more recently when they were policy from very early on in the rule of the communist regime.

The are standard policies for all communist regimes.

Christians also are subject to the same polcies are are jailed and tortured much more frequently for religious violations than Muslims.

Why is that?

19 posted on 10/17/2004 11:50:33 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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Sorry, I thought I was adressing destro in my post to you above. You didn't lie about anything.

The point is clear about destro's distortions.

20 posted on 10/17/2004 11:51:41 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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