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To: DoughtyOne
"It's sad to see such animosity toward a guy who stated in the early 1990s that if we didn't get our borders under control, we were going to be exposed to terrible acts of terrorism"

Not a single act of terrorism has resulted from "our borders not being under control".

Terrorists enter the U.S. using valid visas and other government issued documents. Why would they risk dying or being caught swimming the Rio Grande or walking for days across deserts and mountains when they can fly first class to any international airport in the country?

24 posted on 10/17/2004 8:24:21 PM PDT by bayourod (Old Media news is poll driven, not fact driven, not event driven, not newsworthy driven.)
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To: bayourod
I voted for him in 2000. As such I realized the congress would moderate his desires. Many of his advisors would have been republican.   I can't believe anyone actually thought on election day that Pat could win. He got less than 1/4th of one percent of the vote. Pat's supporters are delusional.

We've had this conversation what, 25 perhaps 50 times by now.  That being the case, your response here not only doesn't apply, but reveals you to be either a disrupter or someone who is truth challenged.

I considered Buchanan to be an extreme long shot as much as a year before election day.  As much as six months before I was fairly sure his chances were zero.  Three months before I realized it was over.  So much for me thinking he would be elected on election day.  It was a principled stand that is more complex than I care to spend time on now.  I have done so a number of times before, and you know it, so why bother again.

It's sad to see such animosity toward a guy who stated in the early 1990s that if we didn't get our borders under control, we were going to be exposed to terrible acts of terrorism... Not a single act of terrorism has resulted from "our borders not being under control". Terrorists enter the U.S. using valid visas and other government issued documents. Why would they risk dying or being caught swimming the Rio Grande or walking for days across deserts and mountains when they can fly first class to any international airport in the country?

A number of the terrorists on 09/11 had expired entry visas.  The proper implementation of entry visas and the review thereof, is certainly a part of our border control.  As such, your comments don't merit further comment on that point, but I will say that granting entry visas for education, then allowing said individuals to practice takeoffs, but not landings, strikes me as something we should have been aware of.  Beyond that point, these were individuals from terrorist states, who arguably shouldn't have been admitted to our nation under ANY circumstances.

Our borders were not under control were they.  And yes it cost us dearly.


28 posted on 10/17/2004 8:43:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: bayourod
Not a single act of terrorism has resulted from "our borders not being under control".

Yet.

35 posted on 10/17/2004 9:53:32 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: bayourod
Not a single act of terrorism has resulted from "our borders not being under control".

Prove it.

53 posted on 10/17/2004 11:16:14 PM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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