Interview With Pollster John Zogby Next US chief has to heal the meanness

Straits Times ^ | 10/18/04 | By Pranay Gupte

[cricket]

" Yet, you'll never hear a Democrat admit they're wholly responsible for the polarization of this country. . .They've been seething in their own pent up rage for nearly 2 years, blaming everyone but themselves."

And they have deliberately cultivated, with such enormous energies; as hateful a climate as possible to facilitate their politics and the next 'election war'.

Does Zogby live under a rock or what; if he does not; and he does not understand the 'meaness' and where and with whom it begins; then he must be a Liberal Democrat. . .' at heart.

[Check6]

First, he'll have to heal the demonrats.

[cricket]

Another clue to his Liberalism:

"IN MR John Zogby's mind, there's little question that the electorate in the United States is divided into what he calls 'two warring nations'". . .Yes, divided Mr. Zogby; but not equal. . .

[KwasiOwusu]

"His big test will come on Nov 2. In Singapore last Friday, he flatly predicted that Mr. Kerry would become the 44th President of the United States." I can't wait to see his ugly face when Bush clobbers Hanoi John Kerry on November 2. I am thinking recall elections in California and John Zogby's confident prediction that Cruz Bustamante was going to win by to the tune of 10 % with only about a eek to go, only for Arnold to win by a massive over 10%!! And error rate from Zogby by to the tune of 20% +! With a record like that, its gotta be a great sign for Bush when Zogby the Kerry partisan comes out with dopey predictions like that. I am more confident than ever, President Bush WILL win these elections.

[river rat]

Heal the meanness???? Good Idea...

We should simply declare open season on leftists....
That is ONLY was to cure a lying leftist....

Semper Fi

[mylife]

I'd forgoten the bustamate/swarzenegger prediction! L0L

[Raycpa]

What a pile of horse manure. Bush went too far right. Give me a break.

[jwalsh07]

'Whoever the next president is, he is going to have to be, first and foremost, a healer - or at least someone who stops this widening, this deepening of ideological divisions in the US. The ugly thing is, this meanness has spilled over from the halls of Congress to Main Street, US.'

Uh, no John, the next CIC's primary mission is to stop islamofascism in its tracks and kill every deadender that we can find.

Buy a clue Zogby.

[Yardstick]

Is it even possible to heal a rift between international socialism and American constitutionalism? I realize that the Dems and the Pubs are only imperfect representatives of each, but this is really what it boils down to. Cats and dogs will always hate each other and so will the Right and the Left. We're dealing with totally different ways of looking at the world: different premises, different conclusions, different everything.

On the other hand, America has always been divided in one way or another. The question that's interesting to me is: have we finally reached the ultimate divide? Are we now up against a philosophical disagreement that's more fundamental and irreconcilable than previous disagreements have been? In other words, is the present division historically unique in its apparent intractibility?

People will point to different periods in America's history, like the Civil War, and say "no, these times aren't unique -- it was even worse then". But I have a feeling that it wasn't worse then. In the Civil War we had two competing conservatisms. The North wanted to preserve the Union and the South wanted to preserve its way of life.

Now, however, we have one side that's conservative while the other is transformative. This is a new wrinkle. Transformation requires the destruction or abandonment of that which exists so that it may be replaced with something better. The transformationists want to saw the very branch off from underneath us. They want to scrap our constitutional ideals and replace them with socialist ones.

So I (tentatively, realizing that my knowledge of history is far from complete) posit that our present predicament is unique. Prior rifts have been characterized by competing conservative factions. But we now have a conservative faction competing with a transformative faction.

[BigSkyFreeper]

Zogby's insights ring hollow. Considering his election day snap polls have been completely wrong every single time they're cited. Most recent examples were "Gore's landslide in 2000", and a "huge victory for the Democrats in the Senate" in 2002.

There's nothing to read into the thinking of John Zogby except that he's a partisan nitwit batting .000.

[Kahuna]

I know that President Bush will, indeed, set a "new tone" when he is reelected.

He will send Kerry, both Clintons, Mr./Mrs. Rich, Dan Rather and Sandy Berger to prison.

These actions will bond our Nation to unpresidented heights.

[zip]

or at least someone who stops this widening, this deepening of ideological divisions in the US. The ugly thing is, this meanness has spilled over from the halls of Congress to Main Street, US

Translation: This deepening division and meanness, caused by the GOP because it would not capitulate to the left, anti American dimocRat party, could be smoothed out by the right giving up all rights and allowing the US to be ruled by the UN.

See how simple it is if you understand the "anyone but Bush" agenda.

[Sooth2222]

" Not likely! I have 2 sons!"

Maybe a MALE lesbian? (Haven't heard Rush use that one for a while!)

[cricket]

On the tag-line; have had it for weeks - maybe a couple of months now; you are the first to notice (!). . . OR. . .maybe, the first to notice . . .and like it AND comment on it ;^). . . Thanks.

[patriciamary]

SCREW YOU John Zogby!

[Petronski]

Based on the title alone:

[spit]

[antaresequity]

Screw that...I say bring it on and lets rumble

[Quix]

WHAT FELLOWSHIP

has light with darkness!

II Cor 6:14

14Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

[patriciamary]

Great reply,I'm sick of all these people,I have had it,enough is enough!

[mylife]

The ugly thing is, this meanness has spilled over from the halls of Congress to Main Street, US

Zogby forgets the congress works for us. It started in the streets.