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GIs who refused job had unarmored trucks
courier press ^ | 10 17 04 | JIM KRANE

Posted on 10/17/2004 2:40:08 PM PDT by freepatriot32

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1 posted on 10/17/2004 2:40:09 PM PDT by freepatriot32
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To: freepatriot32

The papers are beating this story ro death


2 posted on 10/17/2004 2:44:43 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: freepatriot32

Thats a new one on me. They didnt have uparmored trucks when I was in Eyerackee Land, and I drove the M931A2, we put sandbags on the hood and our jack plates in the door frames, we called it adapting and overcoming.


3 posted on 10/17/2004 2:45:39 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Actually i dropped in on)
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To: freepatriot32

Well, if so, this explains things a bit more. Get the dern trucks reinforced with armor! Let the military hammer this out. I can't blame anyone for not wanting to commit suicide, but calling home to Mommy may not be very soldier-like. I guess this is just part of having ladies serving in war zones.


4 posted on 10/17/2004 2:47:15 PM PDT by Twinkie
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To: aft_lizard

That's a new one because the general didn't say that. I watched it this AM and what he said was that the trucks come without armor and are outfitted when they arrive.


5 posted on 10/17/2004 2:50:15 PM PDT by WTSand
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To: aft_lizard

can sandbags stop ak 47 bullets what about mortor shrapnel ?I never heard of anyone doing that before but if it is effective they should all do it and save a ton of money armor plating the trucks with reenforced steel and kevlar.


6 posted on 10/17/2004 2:50:45 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (today it was the victory act tomorrow its victory coffee, victory cigarettes...)
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To: freepatriot32

FUBAR


7 posted on 10/17/2004 2:53:38 PM PDT by ex-snook (Vote for someone who represents your views or your views will be ignored.)
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To: freepatriot32

We need remotely operated heavy transport trucks to handle this sort of thing.

Put the soldiers operating them in relative safety aboard tanks near the convoys or in copters escorting the convoys.

If we can create remotely piloted aircraft that fly from the US all the way to Iraq and back on their own then why not heavy trucks without soldiers in them performing transport duties?

It seems like a relatively simple technical accomplishment to me.... amateur radio operators build remotely piloted model aircraft that they can fly by joystick while sitting in front of a computer screen looking at the view from a small camera mounted on the model... how much harder could operating a truck be?


8 posted on 10/17/2004 2:54:16 PM PDT by Bobalu (This is not the tag line you are looking for.....move along (waves hand))
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"It seems like a relatively simple technical accomplishment to me...."

How do you propose the gears be shifted on those big rigs? There are not enough Yoda-like Jedi knights to go around.


9 posted on 10/17/2004 2:57:30 PM PDT by charleston1 (No prisoners.)
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To: Phsstpok

Ping!


10 posted on 10/17/2004 2:58:32 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers. :: Kerry promises, but Bush delivers!)
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To: Bobalu
We need remotely operated heavy transport trucks to handle this sort of thing. Put the soldiers operating them in relative safety aboard tanks near the convoys or in copters escorting the convoys.

Good idea. Then we wouldn't have to use highly trained combat soldiers for that job.

We could contract it out and keep our warriors safe.

:^O

11 posted on 10/17/2004 2:59:09 PM PDT by sonofagun
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To: All

the new army


12 posted on 10/17/2004 3:00:14 PM PDT by micah74
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To: Bobalu

I saw a news report about 2 months ago where the army was offering a million dollar prize for the first person that could come up ith a remote control full size truck that could run a 100 mile course in the desert.There were 20 teams i think but no one was able to pull it off the sand and dust shorted them out and obscured the lenses I think


13 posted on 10/17/2004 3:02:15 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (today it was the victory act tomorrow its victory coffee, victory cigarettes...)
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To: freepatriot32

democrat = security risk.... potential or actual..


14 posted on 10/17/2004 3:02:56 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: charleston1

One good machinist plus one good pic microcontroller expert and a month or so would give you smooth shifting :-)

It's just easy to do such things these days..


15 posted on 10/17/2004 3:04:54 PM PDT by Bobalu (This is not the tag line you are looking for.....move along (waves hand))
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To: aft_lizard

Thanks for your service


16 posted on 10/17/2004 3:04:58 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: freepatriot32

I dont really know if the sandbags would be all that effective against bullets, against shrapnel sure. The jack plates are a 1/4 inch steel plate they would be very effective.

We were told that there is no uparmor kits for the M931, either get the welder to weld scrap metal re-enforcement or improvise for safety, we chose improvise. This was in March of 03 at the beginning of the war so some things I am sure changed.


17 posted on 10/17/2004 3:05:14 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Actually i dropped in on)
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To: mylife
I watched the interview with the BGen and I think they misquoted him throughout this story. For one thing, I don't remember him saying anything specifically about the 343rd's posture due to the investigation. I remember him saying they were in the midst of a maintenance/safety stand down.
18 posted on 10/17/2004 3:05:55 PM PDT by lt.america (Captain was already taken)
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To: freepatriot32

That the DARPA challenge? Not even remote control but fully autonomous ground vehicles. They will run it again next year.


19 posted on 10/17/2004 3:06:32 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: freepatriot32

That sounds like a real amateur effort..

I'm suggesting a contract with someone like Raytheon..

If they can whip up terrain guided cruise missiles they can pull this off.


20 posted on 10/17/2004 3:08:15 PM PDT by Bobalu (This is not the tag line you are looking for.....move along (waves hand))
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