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Graydon Carter, Editor of Vanity Fair is Kerry's Guru?
CNBC television station

Posted on 10/16/2004 4:59:23 PM PDT by onyx eyes

Sunday, 10-16-04, the Tim Russert TV show on CNBC, 7:00 EDT, cable television news. Guests are Graydon Carter, Editor for Vanity Fair, and Christopher Hitchens, a contributing journalist. Carter is parroting Kerry's campaign speech words, or vice-a-versa. Hitchens is trying to sound reasonable and balanced. Tim Russert is trying to sound impartial.

One interesting note came out of this program that basically is a rehash of all we've heard before. That is, Christopher Hitchens makes the case that, Blair and Bush actually did take all the right legal steps, do all of the necessary diplomacy, with the UN. The two men, as we now know, received a vote that was not unnaminous because they were turned down by 9 members of the United Nations. Including France. And, notably, Syria.

What we didn't know and hear about in the World Press Corps., is that when pressed for a later decision to come on board with us, the French -- Chirac, "were nice enough to tell us that they would never agree to the vote and would never vote yes, in the future no matter how long we took.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: carter; editor; fair; graydon; graydoncarter; kerry; lurchsdisinformation; vanityfair
Personally speaking and watching from an un-biased viewpoint, Mr. Graydon Carter sounds and looks like a -- kook?
1 posted on 10/16/2004 4:59:24 PM PDT by onyx eyes
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To: onyx eyes

He's another former Canadian, like Peter Jennings, John Roberts etc.


2 posted on 10/16/2004 5:02:56 PM PDT by spyone
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To: onyx eyes
I made the horrible mistake of picking up the latest copy of Vanity Fair, with Johnny Depp on the cover(iknow he hates America, but he's a babe okay?) Anyway, the whole magazine was a complete Bush Bashing issue. It was digusting. There was a comparison of all the presidents dating back to JFK and Vanity Fair just went out of its way to cast Bush in the worst possible light.

What a bunch of dribble. What is scary is some people get all their news from this junk. Carter is the epitome of leftist elitist media.

3 posted on 10/16/2004 5:03:00 PM PDT by Wonderama (,)
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To: onyx eyes

Spy magazine ruled. good, funny stuff.


4 posted on 10/16/2004 5:11:26 PM PDT by isom35
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To: Wonderama

I agree that this Carter guy is even more pompous, self-named elite than Kerry. I wouldn't have thought that possible.
Elite must be synonymous to in-his-world. He certainly seemed to have no power for rational thought.


5 posted on 10/16/2004 5:39:18 PM PDT by SouthCarolinaKit
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To: spyone

No wonder


6 posted on 10/16/2004 5:51:19 PM PDT by TeddyCon
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To: onyx eyes; spyone; Wonderama; isom35; SouthCarolinaKit; TeddyCon
Vanity Fair hasn't always been completely biased.

In Feb 2002, prior to Iraq invasion, Vanity Fair magazine ran a couple of articles in a special section, "Is Iraq Next?"

The lead on one article: "By 1995, northern Iraq was a real nest of intrigue, with warring Kurdish chieftains, a high-level Iraqi military defector, and the leader of the exiled Iraqi National Congress all involved in plots to overthrow Saddam Hussein. Into this tangle went a veteran CIA operative, Robert Baer, certain that the tyrant's ouster was Washington's goal--and the best possible outcome for Iraq. In a newly resonant excerpt from his upcoming memoir, the former agent reveals his efforts to forge an anti-Saddam coalition, the (Clinton) White House's 11th-hour disavowal of the joint uprising he coordinated, and the Bay of Pigs-style debacle that followed."

Another article in the same issue of Vanity Fair, "Inside Saddam's Terror Regime," begins: "The most senior officer ever to defect from Iraq's Mukhabarat intelligence service, Brigadier General Abu Zeinab al-Qurairy was forced into exile in the summer of 2000 when he crossed Hussein's son Uday. After a three-day interview in BEirut, David Rose (author) has the exclusive on al-Qurairy's brutal history of rape, torture, and mass murder, his training of a previously unknown elite force called al-Qare'a -- including an untraceable 30-commando unit that left Iraq a year ago--and his strong belief that Iraq was involved in the 9/11 attacks."

In the article, Rose writes, "It is not until al-Qurairy begins to talk of the terrorist training camp he used to run at Salman Pak, a 45-minute drive south from Baghdad, that he speaks with real feeling....'we trained the elite--the people who've carried out operations abroad, who are on the Interpol wanted lists...Alone of all Iraq's myriad security installations, Salman Pak remains directly answerable to Saddam...'

"On a satellite photo, he picks out Salman Pak's main features...the barracks used for non-Iraqi Arabs, Islamic fundamentalists who first came to Salman Pak in 1995 to be trained...As recently as the summer of 2000, alQurairy saw the Arab students being taught to hijack aircraft on Salman Pak's own passenger jet, an old Russian Tupelov. They all took a special course, he says--"how to gain control of the cockpit and passengers without using firearms."Professional pride meant the Iraqi's ensured the Islamists reached a high standard... his fellow instructors regarded their Islamist students with contempt: "When Jassim and I go for a drink after work, Jassim says they are sons of bitches. The have all this work to do, but they spend half their time praying" (end quotes)

Sound familiar?

When US forces captured Salman Pak, the media was almost silent on the terrorist training camp there.

I hope you can find this issue of Vanity Fair, as they didn't have a web site last time I looked and I've never found these articles online.
7 posted on 10/16/2004 6:19:21 PM PDT by Veto! (Kerry wears a tutu, TeRAYza wears the pants)
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To: Wonderama
I had to quit buying Vanity Fair. First, it was too heavy to hold comfortably while reading it, I always wondered what an issue without ads would weigh. Most important, the articles were left of ultra liberal, and I found I was mostly reading it for what's-his- name, the celebrity gossip dude.

They hate Bush, and make no secret of it. A bunch of left wing wackos, except for Hitchens and a few others, and he's a convert, apparently since 9-11.

8 posted on 10/16/2004 6:40:33 PM PDT by Mjaye (PNN = Pajama News Network)
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To: Veto!
This link is a second hand seller and lists that issue of VF at $20.00
9 posted on 10/16/2004 6:55:31 PM PDT by lancer (If you are not with us, you are againsth us!)
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To: Veto!
I'm searching my references for something to help with your post. This link has this paragraph:

An article in the January 9, 2002, issue of the magazine Vanity Fair included an interview with Abu Zeinab al-Qurairy, an Iraqi defector who was formerly a brigadier general in Hussein's dreaded Mukhabarat intelligence service. Abu Zeinab al-Qurairy was a close aide to Uday Hussein, President Saddam's son. He claimed that Uday was the head of a top secret 1200-strong terrorist force called The Strikers. Uday ordered him to hand-pick a team of 30 of these Iraqi terrorists and give them false identities provided by a corrupt official in the United Arab Emirates. Al-Qurairy warned that this elite terrorist group was trained in ”sabotage, urban warfare, hijacking, and murder.” However, they have now vanished and could be underground anywhere in the West. Al-Qurairy said that Iraq was definitely involved in the September 11 terrorist attacks using their undercover Iraqi teams in the West.If I find more I'll post them.

10 posted on 10/16/2004 7:23:53 PM PDT by lancer (If you are not with us, yhou are againsth us!)
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To: Veto!
I'm searching my references for something to help with your post. This link has this paragraph:

An article in the January 9, 2002, issue of the magazine Vanity Fair included an interview with Abu Zeinab al-Qurairy, an Iraqi defector who was formerly a brigadier general in Hussein's dreaded Mukhabarat intelligence service. Abu Zeinab al-Qurairy was a close aide to Uday Hussein, President Saddam's son. He claimed that Uday was the head of a top secret 1200-strong terrorist force called The Strikers. Uday ordered him to hand-pick a team of 30 of these Iraqi terrorists and give them false identities provided by a corrupt official in the United Arab Emirates. Al-Qurairy warned that this elite terrorist group was trained in ”sabotage, urban warfare, hijacking, and murder.” However, they have now vanished and could be underground anywhere in the West. Al-Qurairy said that Iraq was definitely involved in the September 11 terrorist attacks using their undercover Iraqi teams in the West.

If I find more I'll post them.

11 posted on 10/16/2004 7:27:01 PM PDT by lancer (If you are not with us, yhou are againsth us!)
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To: lancer
This is a compilation of leads:

And as WorldNetDaily reported last December, CIA reports of Iraqi-al-Qaida cooperation number nearly 100 and extend back to 1992, according to a reporter for Vanity Fair whose sources include senior Pentagon officials. David Rose, writing for the magazine and the United Kingdom's Evening Standard, says he is convinced of the links between Osama bin Laden's terrorist network and Saddam Hussein's Baghdad regime. (WorldNetDaily, Saturday, November 15, 2003)

Another: This is LONDON, 09/12/02 - News and city section, "Saddam and al Qaeda," By David Rose for the Evening Standard

I have the text of this if you are interested.

That's all I was able to locate.

12 posted on 10/16/2004 7:40:33 PM PDT by lancer (If you are not with us, yhou are againsth us!)
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To: lancer

Thanks for the link to Jeffrey. He is certainly well-informed. Do you know him?

I have Vanity Fair Feb 2002 issue on my desk. Several freepers bought it when it came out, as the cover features quite a good photo by Annie Liebovitz of Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rummy, Rice, Tenet, and Andy Card in the Oval office. Inside, in addition to the special section on Iraq and terror, is an article on Bush by Chris Buckley, a freeper friend I believe.

I don't know whether they have followed up with subsequent informative articles about terror training in Iraq. Probably not, for reasons we understand all too well.


13 posted on 10/19/2004 11:35:30 AM PDT by Veto! (Kerry wears a tutu, TeRAYza wears the pants)
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To: Veto!

You're welcome. Glad to help. I don't know him.

I have a copy of the Vanity Fair cover photo.

Would you be able to scan the article and post it? Would be helpful to many, I'm sure.


14 posted on 10/19/2004 4:39:03 PM PDT by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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