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Miners can start at $40,000 to $50,000 but...
The Houston Chronicle ^ | 10/16/04 | Sadie

Posted on 10/16/2004 4:05:42 PM PDT by Sadie789

The job recruiters are mentioned in this article in the Houston Chronicle.

Miners can start at $40,000 to $50,000 but can make as much as $100,000 if they work all available overtime.

Coal mines encounter shortage of workers Aging work force and high demand worry industry Burning Need By CHARLES SHEEHAN Associated Press PITTSBURGH - While much of the country struggles with a difficult job market, coal companies are in a heated competition for workers. They're raiding each other ... http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/business/2848046

***The United Mine Workers Career Centers Inc., which retrains displaced coal miners in several states for other jobs, has just applied for federal funding to begin training new coal miners. ****

http://www.thejournalnews.com/newsroom/101604/d0116coalcrunch.html


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coal
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To: Hank Rearden

good catch :>


21 posted on 10/16/2004 4:45:55 PM PDT by KantianBurke (Am back but just for a short while)
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To: KantianBurke
Yeah, if it pays so damn well, why do the union thugs demand more subsidies?

Never mind; rhetorical.

Unions must die.

22 posted on 10/16/2004 4:49:06 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Hank Rearden

That was funny!!!!!!!!!


23 posted on 10/16/2004 4:50:29 PM PDT by Sadie789
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To: Sadie789
"***The United Mine Workers Career Centers Inc., which retrains displaced coal miners in several states for other jobs, has just applied for federal funding to begin training new coal miners. ****"

These union people are theiving scumbags.

24 posted on 10/16/2004 4:53:01 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: Sadie789

The only mines with those kinds of numbers are union mines and there aren't many of them left here in WV. At that, you won't see anything near that as a 'red hat.' After you are certified (black hat) you get a lot closer.
In the non-union mines you get $10.00/hr.
Very hard, very dangerous work.


25 posted on 10/16/2004 4:56:41 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: spunkets

It's sad, but we all get ripped off by our employers. Our wages are too low because all our employers are getting rich off of our labor. As long as we work for someone else we will continue to get ripped off, but having a job is better than not having one. Some people look at it that way instead of whinning about not having a job.


26 posted on 10/16/2004 4:58:35 PM PDT by Sadie789
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To: I_Like_Spam

They did and aren't most coal mines now strip mines?

TOM JONES LYRICS


"16 Tons"

{1vsl}
Some people say a man is made out of mud well a poor man's made outta
muscle and blood..Muscle and blood and skin and bone..and a mind
that's weak..but a back thats strong.
{2vs}
And he was born one morning when the sun didn't shine..
He picked up his shovel and he went to the mines
He loaded 16 tons of that number 9 coal..Til-
the Straw boss said Well-uh b-less my soul!
{CHR}
You load 16 tons and whaddaya get??
another day older and deeper in dept
Saint Peter don'tcha call me 'Cause-
I can't go...I owe my soul to the Company
Store
{3vs}
So if you see him coming..you better step aside,-
Alot of men didn't and alot of men died.
He's got one fist of iron, and the other of
steel..And if the right one doesn't get you..
Then the night one will...


27 posted on 10/16/2004 5:02:09 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: Roccus

I've heard Lorretta Lyn talk about her dad working in the coal mines. She also said that is was very hard, very dangerous work.

Some people will take these jobs. I admire them.


28 posted on 10/16/2004 5:03:06 PM PDT by Sadie789
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To: Graybeard58
We have no illegal immigrants to fill these jobs?

Can't outsource those jobs.

29 posted on 10/16/2004 5:04:27 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.)
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To: Sadie789

Yes, but they won't serve you in a liquor store.


30 posted on 10/16/2004 5:16:45 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("Ich glaube, du hast in die hosen geschissen!")
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To: Sadie789

I meant the union vps digging for tax dollars. IT's a scam the unions run. Tax dollars are used to pay union members to teach the unemployed. They're unemployed, because there's no market. They're creating their own market demand and supply all with tax money. Schools do it too.

I don't buy the employer rippoff generalization. Although it occurs, I haven't found it to be general. THere's good and bad behavoir to be found anywhere. Schemes like the above are found coming from employers and employees.


31 posted on 10/16/2004 5:17:37 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: I_Like_Spam


(My grandfather worked in the mines, hard job back breaking labor, black lung, working in a damp, dark hole.)

((These folks earn their pay checks)



And then they died (relatively) Young men.


32 posted on 10/16/2004 5:25:19 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Keep RIGHT or get LEFT behind!!)
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To: RedMonqey

I have the impression that coal miners now operate heavy equipment and are a lot more productive than old timers who worked with picks. That's probably one reason why their salaries are high.


33 posted on 10/16/2004 5:41:51 PM PDT by ClaireSolt
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To: spunkets

If you don't think that the mine owners weren't "ripping off" the miners, you better re-read your history. Company towns and stores are not fairy tales. Most folks were more or less imprisoned in the 'holler' by the ruggedness of the terrain. The only way in or out was the company RR spur. Miners were paid in script. The only things you could purchase were from the company store which would run you a tab. Everything would be overpriced.
"I owe my soul to the company store."
The company provided housing, for a price. It was impossible to live elsewere and still get to the mine for your shift.
Children as young as 10 often worked the mines to help their families get ahead of the game. Very few accomplished it.
The unions changed those practices.
Are the unions perfect? No. But the fact of the matter is that in those times and under those circumstances they were needed.


34 posted on 10/16/2004 5:48:43 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: ClaireSolt

True!!


35 posted on 10/16/2004 5:53:09 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Keep RIGHT or get LEFT behind!!)
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To: Roccus
"re-read your history"

I wasn't talking about history, or some time in the distant past.

"The unions changed those practices. Are the unions perfect? No. But the fact of the matter is that in those times and under those circumstances they were needed."

The role and justification for the union is for collective bargaining and protection of workers rights. Rights is the keyword. WHen they, or anyone, act to violate rights, they are engaging in evil. I commented, because they are egaging in a campaign to steal other people's money to fund their scam. It's the same as if the company execs were engaged in a similar scam to line their own pockets.

37 posted on 10/16/2004 6:04:22 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: ClaireSolt

You're absolutely right. But they still need plenty of grunt labor that have to have certification. These are not the 40 & 50K jobs. Somebody has got to carry the pipe.


38 posted on 10/16/2004 6:05:49 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: NOTTAHERO

There's a lot of welfare mentality in the coal fields as well.
Bobby Byrd has made this state dependent on the feds for hand-outs. He keeps money coming in and that's why they keep electing him.


39 posted on 10/16/2004 6:10:25 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: spunkets

Welcome to the real world. WV is still in play. The unions think they can get something from the administration. The administration wants the votes. That's how the game is played and both sides know it.


40 posted on 10/16/2004 6:14:32 PM PDT by Roccus
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