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Tom Daschle to Lose Senate Seat?
CBN ^ | 10/14/04 | David Brody

Posted on 10/16/2004 1:07:01 PM PDT by wagglebee

SIOUX FALLS, South Dakota. -- Control of the Senate will be up for grabs on Election Day. Right now, Republicans hold a slight edge 51-49, but there are some key Senate races that will determine the outcome. The biggest one is in South Dakota, where the top Democrat, Minority Leader Tom Daschle, is in the fight for his political life.

On the colorful, picture-postcard plains of South Dakota comes the story of Tom and John. That is how they are known out here. And no, they are not best friends. As a matter of fact, they are not that fond of each other.

But debates like that happen when you are involved in the most important Senate race in the country. So that is why CBN News came to this state, where the slogan reads, “Great faces. Great places.”

Maybe they should add a line this year to say, 'Great races, too." Because that is what this is. A heavyweight bout between Sen. Daschle, the leader of the Democrats in the Senate, and his challenger John Thune, who wants to send Tom packing. Thune is asking voters here to see Daschle for who he truly is: the liberal Washington, D.C. insider who is blocking the President's agenda at every turn.

And Thune says that does not jive with the conservative values of South Dakotans. He comments, "You cannot effectively represent your state, the state of South Dakota, at the same time you are having to take your cues and answers to a liberal Democratic caucus that consists of Ted Kennedy, Hillary Clinton and John Kerry. And that's who he has to answer to."

There is no arguing that the people here in South Dakota are pretty conservative. Four years ago, this state went to George W. Bush, and polls indicate it will again this time as well. So how is Sen. Daschle doing it? How, for 25 years has this state continued to elect him, even though his liberal views seem to be in direct contrast to the people here?

The Daschle camp will tell you it is really pretty simple. They point to how time and time again, he has come through with big money for the state, and has wielded his influential power in a way that benefits South Dakotans.

Jake Mass, Daschle's campaign press secretary, says, "When the farm bill was written, Tom Daschle was in the room. He ensured that it was the most South Dakota-friendly farm bill that's ever been written. We have that ability because we have Tom Daschle in Washington fighting for our states priorities."

Thune says South Dakotans will not take a back seat with him as senator.

"Does anyone really think that the money coming into South Dakota is going to completely dry up,” said, Thune, “if Tom Daschle is not the minority leader? Any senator who's worth their salt is going to get their fair share of the federal dollars. That's what senators do."

Yet for years, the image of Daschle as a prairie populist has stuck with voters here. The liberal Washington insider tag has not. And Daschle's TV ads really sum up what his campaign theme is: "It may seem like something small, but every year Tom Daschle gets in his car and visits every county in the state. Every year, Tom goes to all 66 counties and nine reservations to listen and to learn. And while we are a small state, Tom Daschle makes sure our voice is heard in the halls of power, and that South Dakota's needs are put to the top of the national agenda."

The Thune camp says, wait a minute. The South Dakota visits may be a nice touch, but what he's doing in Washington is downright wrong. They point to a list of legislation called the 'Daschle dead zone" that has passed the House, but Daschle has blocked almost all of it.

Like permanent tax cuts, a cloning bill, flag burning, an energy bill, welfare reform and yes, one of the biggest ones: judicial nominations, where Thune says Daschle is leading the crusade to block votes on Bush's nominees.

And the Thune camp says a shot of Daschle hugging Bush after 9/11, which Daschle is using in his ads in South Dakota, says it all. Thune says that picture is misleading voters because Daschle is not supporting Bush at all. So the question is, will the liberal label stick, or will voters go with a known commodity?. Right now, the race is a toss up.

David Kranz has been covering South Dakota politics for 30 years. CBN News asked him if this is the most danger Daschle has been in, in his political career in South Dakota. Kranz responded, "Oh, there's no doubt about it."

Kranz writes for the Argus Leader, the dominant newspaper in South Dakota and he says this race will be decided by one factor. "It's going to come down to get out the vote. The ground game is critical. You can look at all the ads you want to. You can listen to all the messages on radio. Read everything in the newspaper about this particular contest; but in the end, it's the people who are in charge; that says I need to get these people to vote. That's going to decide this election."

The challenge for both Daschle and Thune will be finding the votes here that matter. It is estimated that most people here in South Dakota have made up their mind. Polls are showing that only two percent of the population here is still undecided. That is very low, and it has both sides scrambling to find the undecided.

When you look for undecideds, you go just about anywhere, including the annual homecoming parade in small town Harrisburg, South Dakota. There is the homecoming king and queen, and the man on the tractor, and yes, there's Thune, glad-handing and high-fiving his way through the crowd. It is an advantage he has over Daschle, who has to spend most of his time in Washington.

Yet the Daschle volunteers are here handing out stickers to anyone they can find. One Daschle supporter said, "Daschle is strictly for the ordinary person. I think he's worked hard all these years in the Senate for South Dakota, the common ordinary person."

But if we move from the parade to one of the local hangouts in Sioux Falls, the view changes and the conversation is definitely top of mind.

One Thune supporter named Mark said, “I mean he's the minority leader. I mean, the things that's he done and stood up for and said. It's just not South Dakota, and it's time for him to go."

As for the signs around town, they are pretty split, just like this race. Daschle signs on one side of the street -- maybe it is the left side, and Thune on the right. At the Daschle campaign headquarters, the pro-Tom signs are up, and volunteers are at the ready.

All of them have one message to voters: Daschle is for South Dakota.

Mass said, "It's not about being a liberal or a Democrat. It's about putting South Dakota's priorities first, and I think South Dakotans know Tom Daschle, and they've seen him time and time again put South Dakota first."

But just a few minutes away, at Thune headquarters, volunteers there are on the phone to potential voters with a much different message. One that they hope will have a lasting effect.

CBN News asked Thune, "If you're able to send Daschle out of office, what kind of message is that going to send to the liberal wing of the Democratic Party?

Thune replied, "A win here in South Dakota will send a message once and for all to the Democrat caucus, that whoever their next leader is should not employ this block-and-blame game, this pattern of obstructionism that is keeping the work from going forward. I think it will break that logjam, get the Senate functioning and working again in a way that very few other races in the country can."

So the next time you think of South Dakota, remember, it is not just about Mount Rushmore, or cows, or small town U.S.A. It is also about Tom and John, and there is a lot riding on the outcome.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: cbn; deeplysaddened; electionussenate; johnthune; leftists; senate; thune; tomdaschle
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To: gpapa
Put your money where your mouth is. Send Daschle packing. Go here to donate a few dollars to the John Thune for Senate campaign.

...done...an Andrew Jackson.

61 posted on 10/16/2004 2:30:07 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: wagglebee

A Daschle loss is almost too much to hope for! Be still, my heart!


62 posted on 10/16/2004 2:34:05 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: Bearshouse
The next to go will be Terry McAuliff

Terry has already announced that he is leaving his DNC post right after the election.

63 posted on 10/16/2004 2:34:49 PM PDT by engrpat
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To: wagglebee
he won't go home. He'll stay in Washington and become a lobbyist for "the little people."
64 posted on 10/16/2004 2:34:53 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I'm gonna laugh my a$$ off if he's a lobbyist for Halliburton, Bechtel or an oil company in a few months!


65 posted on 10/16/2004 2:36:18 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: All

lot's going on here in SD.
not sure how much has already been posted on this as i'm still new here..

Dasshole was running adds that were quickly christined Hug-gate2 (the Moore hug - and denial - are Hug-gate1) Thune even mentioned "Hug-gate"! haa

There was the cry of out rage over dasshole using our beloved President for his slimy benifit. i wrote a nasty letter to the editor over it. thanking Daschle for endorsing Bush.

Then there was the Lot's of RINO's For Tom Daschle Add. that backfired..

Then a Native Amrican who was planning on running against Tommy dropped out and said it was because Tommy had promised the Indians something HUGE - REALLY BIG - TOP SECRET, so on. everyone speculating.. rumor was that Dasshole was telling the Indians he was going to get the Federal Wind Cave Park to be "given back to the Indians" .... woo :O
The guy that dropped out of the race never denied it.. he even hinted strongly that this was so. Then - Tommy crapped on him and said, no he never promised him a thing! haaaa!!
I live 50 miles north of the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation and let me tell you - the Indians were NOT happy over their hero Tommy stabbing them in the back. Thune signs galore popped up on the Rez in place of Tommy's -"A Strong Voice for Indian Country" signs. haa

Now - the Tommy in a Red Plaid Shirt Adds. "I hunt, therefore i am." i spent 130 bucks on a add in my local paper showing Tommy's REAL 2nd amendment record. PLUS - Thune has an add running that has a handsome fellow talking about how he would call and call Tom over gun issues and Tommy would promiise him to vote against it - but then he would vote FOR it..
woohoo... it's a burner.. i'm planning on re-running my add.. in the Rapid City Paper too..

PLUS - Tommy has an add where these loggers are defending him - they actually call the President's Healthy Forest Initiative - "Tom Daschle's Healthy Forest Initicative" !! lying little sack of...

AND - he is now running a new add (he took Hug-gate2 down) where he whimpers "i agreed with the President on most issues." yes, yes.. he really says that.

enough for now..

sorry if it is all old news. Thune is going to win.


66 posted on 10/16/2004 2:38:15 PM PDT by sdpatriot
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To: wagglebee
I believe that a defeat of Daschle would be a serious bitch slap for the Democrats and I hope that it comes to pass.

I have never been to SD but my 1st Platoon leader in the Army was from there and he was a no nonsense sort of guy. I suppose that I assumed that was a general characteristic of most South Dakotans.

Daschle is an obstructionist unlike anyone before him in recent times. Culling the Senate of that sorry ass condescending sort would be a great leap in progress for our country.
67 posted on 10/16/2004 2:41:15 PM PDT by Radix (What turns orange in Sept., is carved up in Oct., and is thrown out in Nov.?)
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To: EternalVigilance; Little Bill

I see you two have a wager going and I know we all hope Little Bill loses, even Little Bill. So if Bill loses and this celebration meal ever comes to pass I'd like to join you, not expecting Bill to pay of course. I'd just love to raise a cool one for Mr Thune with you guys. I did donate to the Thune cause after all.


68 posted on 10/16/2004 2:42:15 PM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: sdpatriot

bttt


69 posted on 10/16/2004 2:43:01 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Alberta's Child

Daschle's done all but change party ID. He's already run commercials boasting of his ties with President Bush. So its quite possible he can fool South Dakotans into sending him back to serve another six years in the U.S Senate.


70 posted on 10/16/2004 2:43:36 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: skinkinthegrass; gpapa

Ditto on the Jackson. Felt good too!!!


71 posted on 10/16/2004 2:50:41 PM PDT by rjmeagle (Bush in 2004, Guiliani in 2008!!!)
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To: sdpatriot
I had not heard about the Daschle the Hunter ads. Has the NRA chipped in with any anti-Daschle ads?
72 posted on 10/16/2004 2:52:23 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: Radix
Yes! to everything you said!

The best way to tell these creeps what we want is to send them home without a job. Yes, that's a serious "bitch-slap" and it affects all of the others tempted to follow suit as well.
Never thought I'd be interested in what happens in SD but I sure am!

73 posted on 10/16/2004 2:52:45 PM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: goldstategop

Thune ain't letting him. he calls him on it. Thune has awesome adds that are quick responses to Daschle's latest lies.. and the National Republican Senatorial Committee has pumped big $$ in adds in our state for Thune, they are doing a superb job.
as is the National Chamber of Commerce ... bless them.. they have spent a lot of money here for Thune and Diedrich. (i like Larry Diedrich even better than Thune)

the big down side is the east river rag - Argus Leader. they are as bad as Koppel or Rather. they are putridly biased..

what is bttt??


74 posted on 10/16/2004 2:55:41 PM PDT by sdpatriot
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To: ThirstyMan

Hey, we can just turn it into a party! ;-)

Boston wouldn't be a bad place for it. All the dejected liberal faces would make good party favors...lol...


75 posted on 10/16/2004 2:55:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Defeatists Suck)
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To: sdpatriot
Thanks for the newsy report! This could be a great year

he whimpers "i agreed with the President on most issues." yes, yes.. he really says that.

What a crooked lying politician! The great conservative folks in South Dakota have got to pay attention to who they are sending to represent them. Ha! I should talk, being from MA but we're not a conservative state by any means. (not sure if you may have already known that -- ha!)

76 posted on 10/16/2004 2:59:04 PM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: ThirstyMan; EternalVigilance
I hope EV wins also, this is one I wouldn't mind loosing, but based on the shocked look on his face when I told him Bob Smith didn't have a snow balls chance in the last election, I thought it would energise him for Thune.

Your invited as are all Mass FReepers, EV is a great Guy.

77 posted on 10/16/2004 3:01:50 PM PDT by Little Bill (John F'n Kerry is a self promoting scumbag!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Oh my gosh, a FReeper party in Boston to celebrate Bush and Thune victories? I seriously think we are onto something.


78 posted on 10/16/2004 3:02:24 PM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: EternalVigilance

Thune will win.
George will win.
Fret not.


79 posted on 10/16/2004 3:04:42 PM PDT by MaryJaneNC
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To: sweetliberty
And South Dakota does NOT require voters to show ID or voter registration cards at the polls.

OH YES SD DOES!

We have to produce our drivers licenses when we vote.

And to get an absentee ballot, the signature for it has to be notarized.

80 posted on 10/16/2004 3:10:28 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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