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This story provides a vision of hell. People go into jail for minor crimes and come out physically and emotionally shattered and carrying deadly diseases because people (incl. California's Democrat AG) think this kind of thing is a joke. Our country and states must do more to stop this.
1 posted on 10/16/2004 6:35:03 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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Or not ....... it is sort of like natural selection... we cant do things in prisons that we used to do ... we have tv and recreation etc.... so the system is replacing it with their own hell.....

it is a prision ...... it is punishment....


2 posted on 10/16/2004 6:38:59 AM PDT by Gibtx (Pajamahadien call to arms.....)
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While I'm all in favor of prison being a nasty place, I don't like the organized crime that apparently takes place in the prison environment. Squash that, society will improve as a result.
3 posted on 10/16/2004 6:39:00 AM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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One way to stop it is for criminals to not commit crimes.


4 posted on 10/16/2004 6:39:36 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.


5 posted on 10/16/2004 6:39:57 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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The candidates were asked in the last debate if they thought that homosexuality begins at birth. How many of these gang members do you suppose were born in prison?


6 posted on 10/16/2004 6:42:16 AM PDT by Soliton (Alone with everyone else.)
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because people (incl. California's Democrat AG) think this kind of thing is a joke

Check out the "Martha Stewart threads" here at FR and count the number of people who take great delight at the thought that she might be beaten or sexually molested while in prison.

8 posted on 10/16/2004 6:44:05 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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I am in no way sympathetic toward convicted criminals, but if the goal of incarceration is reform, then this type of activity must be stopped. Keep in mind, most of these men will be back out on the streets and having been subjected to this type of debauchery will in no way contribute to making them productive members of society once released.
9 posted on 10/16/2004 6:44:09 AM PDT by irishlass
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Our country and states must do more to stop this.

What do you suggest? Short of solitary confinement for every prisoner, 23 hours a day, you're not going to stop it.

10 posted on 10/16/2004 6:45:40 AM PDT by sinkspur ("I swim with the alligators in the fevered swamps of traditionalism. " Cardinal Fanfani)
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It is horrible.
I doubt that there is really anything to do. The states have to pony up enormous sums of money to make prisons nicer, cleaner, safer, healthier, and so on.
The basic problem is the men who are in there. It's the same model as the dysfunctional folks in the horrible slums and ghettos.
11 posted on 10/16/2004 6:47:26 AM PDT by starfish923
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This is really sad. I believe someone who breaks the law must suffer the consequences of his/her actions. However, this man in no way, shape, or form deserved to go through this. My brother did federal time for drug violations, and thank God he never encountered treatment such as this.


12 posted on 10/16/2004 6:47:46 AM PDT by bearsgirl90
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I've always opined that if the proper punishment for a crime is rape, then the convicted should be formally raped. But he shouldn't be imprisoned as well. One thing or the other, and with due process; that's my perspective.


14 posted on 10/16/2004 6:51:05 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("Ich glaube, du hast in die hosen geschissen!")
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This is a NYT piece. Thus not very trustworthy.


22 posted on 10/16/2004 6:58:59 AM PDT by ikka
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Remember if you defend yourself in most big cities and you could end up in prison if you get the wrong DA. You might laugh about this but it could be you.


25 posted on 10/16/2004 6:59:52 AM PDT by Nov3 (They knifed babies, They raped girls, They forced children to drink their own urine)
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It's counterproductive to "punish" criminals by creating an environment in which other crimes can flourish. On the other hand, I don't have much sympathy for someone suffering in a hell of his own making.


31 posted on 10/16/2004 7:02:56 AM PDT by IronJack (R)
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There IS a solution but it will have to be implemented across the board in every State.

REVAMP the laws to include mandatory death sentences in more crimes. I would say that to sexually abuse a homosexual while in prison deserves the DEATH PENALTY, no trial, no jury, no reprieve. Within 72 hours of proof. DNA in someone's orafice would be enough to convict.

I am pro-life. If a person commits a heinous crime WHILE in prison, he forfeits his life. Purely and simply.


34 posted on 10/16/2004 7:04:19 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated
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It should be stopped immediately.


35 posted on 10/16/2004 7:05:31 AM PDT by 2ThumbsUp
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A "journalist" with the world's leading journal wrote this sentence? ...

The officials deny they mishandled the complaints and the ugly comments attributed to them.

They deny they mishandled the ugly comments?

43 posted on 10/16/2004 7:10:16 AM PDT by gg188
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This has gone on in jails and prisons for years and those in charge are very much aware of it and apparently accept it.


48 posted on 10/16/2004 7:19:06 AM PDT by gunnedah
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This from Adam LIPTALK of the New York Times... LoL...


55 posted on 10/16/2004 7:36:15 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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Oh now this is what we need. Prisons that encourage rape so we can turn those rapists back into society.


57 posted on 10/16/2004 7:38:09 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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