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Vatican: Kerry guilty of heresy; incurrs automatic excommunication
EWTN The World Over ^ | 10/15/04

Posted on 10/15/2004 7:20:42 PM PDT by St. Johann Tetzel

Dramatic development in the fight for the Right to Life and the standing of pro-abortion Catholic politicians.

Today, in EWTN's news magazine The World Over, canon lawyer Marc Balestrieri revealed that the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has certified that the Church's condemnation of abortion is part of Catholic doctrine and of natural law, and as such, any one who publicly contradicts this doctrine is guilty of heresy and incurrs an automatic excommunication.

Click here to download the Roman Congregation's response.

Earlier this year, Marc Balestrieri filed a heresy lawsuit against Senator John F. Kerry for his public and obstinate support of abortion rights. This lawsuit remains active in the tribunal of the Archdiocese of Boston. Today, Mr. Balestrieri announced in the same program that he will file new charges against the most egregious offenders, including Senator Ted Kennedy (D-Mass) and Susan Collins (R-Maine), whose pro-abortion voting record is well known.

To find out more about Marc Balestrieri's efforts, to join the class-action canon lawsuits against Kerry et al. as an aggrieved party, or to contribute towards his ministry, visit his website, www.defide.org


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catholicpoliticians; excommunication; heresy; kerry; lataesententiae; vatican
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To: Hermann the Cherusker

"{He first filed for an annullment (which has not been granted) in 1997."

Your proof of this statement could mean the outcome of the election...if you have proof provide it. As much as I would like for it to be true, speculation is not our friend...


181 posted on 10/16/2004 3:55:59 PM PDT by Ravens70
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To: Jim Noble

My nephew had the effrontery to do the same (and he added a lie, telling us that a Catholic priest would be there as a witness.)

When it was clear that there was no Catholic priest present, and in FULL VIEW of my darling children, I simply got up and left the church.

I hope it made the same impression on my children as it did on your family. And trust me, it was probably as difficult for the parish priest to "read out" your Grandpa as it was for me to leave--(after all, I had shaved, showered, and shined the shoes...)


182 posted on 10/16/2004 3:57:27 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ninenot
QED: Bonfire Time!

As I understand it has been about 110 years since last heretic was executed; IIRC, the Bishop of Seville was burned.

That makes it high time for another public example, just to keep the threat credible.

"Marshmallow-on-a-stick? Sausage on-a-bun? Cheapest prices for best treats, even if it's like cutting me own throat!"

183 posted on 10/16/2004 3:58:43 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: ninenot

Dear ninenot,

Ah, but if I were created a cardinal without being consecrated a bishop, I could not be Ordinary of the See. I would have no jurisdiction, no priestly or episcopal authority.

But I could vote for pope for another 36 years!

On the other hand, were I somehow to be consecrated, and become Ordinary of the Archdiocese of Washington, then we would have to lay in a significant supply of kerosene. ;-)


sitetest


184 posted on 10/16/2004 3:58:49 PM PDT by sitetest (Why does everyone get so uptight about toasted heretics??)
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To: Jim Noble
(FR Iraq policy debate begins 11/3/04. Pass the word.)

BTW, are you as, ahhh, nervous about the Iraq adventure as I am?

185 posted on 10/16/2004 3:59:04 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ninenot
When it was clear that there was no Catholic priest present, and in FULL VIEW of my darling children, I simply got up and left the church.

Gutsy, real gutsy. I just weenie out and skip the services altogether. A nonpracticing Catholic friend of mine was engaged to marry a nonpracticing divorced Catholic guy who was waiting for his annulment to come through. Instead of waiting a couple more months, they opted to marry in the Episcopalian Church because the reception hall was open that day. I don't see what the big deal was because they had lived together for a year or more. I was really shocked they didn't wait for the annulment but I must be naive because no one else blinked an eye and my own sister thinks I'm nuts for being sad over the whole thing.

186 posted on 10/16/2004 4:07:47 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: ninenot
BTW, are you as, ahhh, nervous about the Iraq adventure as I am?

I so dread John Kerry as President that I am holding my peace for now.

187 posted on 10/16/2004 4:09:42 PM PDT by Jim Noble (FR Iraq policy debate begins 11/3/04. Pass the word.)
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To: Petronski
If I had to defend lurch, I would couch my defense in these terms: "he DID believe it is always gravely immoral (except in self-defense of the mother...life of the mother), but he would not impose that view on others."

That's the great thing. The closing paragraph reads, "[I]f a Catholic supports a civil right to an abortion, ...he or she commits heresy,...[and] is automatically excommunicated." There are a lot more fancy words, legal and Church wise, but that's the gist of it.

188 posted on 10/16/2004 5:05:25 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: Jim Noble; ninenot
I so dread John Kerry as President that I am holding my peace for now.

Agree with you both! Jim,every time I hold my peace,I seem to automatically hold my breath,so at this point I am pretty light headed and dizzy!! Two weeks and three days,I can hardly wait to breathe again.

189 posted on 10/16/2004 5:38:19 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

This isn't really a new development, although it may be moving a step closer to that. Those who procure abortions have long been known to be excommunicated LATAE SENTENTIAE, which is to say automatically but silently.

People like Kennedy and Kerry simply deny that it applies to them, and the American bishops, with a few (but I think a growing number) of exceptions, prefer not to speak out publicly on the issue.

The Archdiocese of Boston could, and should, PUBLICLY excommunicate Kerry. But they certainly won't do it before the election. The Church always moves slowly on this sort of thing. But I believe the momentum among the American bishops is starting to turn. The concensus is starting to move away from "don't rock the boat or stir up political trouble" to "gosh, I don't want to be stuck among a minority of bishops who are still defending these pro-aborts. But it won't happen for a while yet.


190 posted on 10/16/2004 7:48:01 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel
Earlier this year, Marc Balestrieri filed a heresy lawsuit against Senator John F. Kerry for his public and obstinate support of abortion rights.

How long does it take to have such a lawsuit completely processed by the Archdiocese ? I suppose what I am asking is, is there any hope this action could start to be processed before October 31, 2004 ?
191 posted on 10/16/2004 8:04:10 PM PDT by pyx (Too busy ? If you get cheated by the LEFT on November 2, 2004, you only have yourself to blame.)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel
I printed out the pdf file and scanned it as a text file, so we can examine its claims here:

Splendid, outstanding job !
Thank you very much !
192 posted on 10/16/2004 8:25:21 PM PDT by pyx (Too busy ? If you get cheated by the LEFT on November 2, 2004, you only have yourself to blame.)
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To: narses
Heresy. Excommunication. Will this be part of our public debate?

It will be when names are named. Until then, the media will spin any footnote they can get their hands on. The heresy petition is a great idea. Thanks for the ping.

193 posted on 10/18/2004 4:34:31 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
I'd love for the MSM to film the excommunication - you know, like the scene out of "Becket" where the monks take the lit candles, turn them upside down and stamp them out on the stone floor. A fitting end to a horrible, lying, filth-ridden dim campaign...
194 posted on 10/18/2004 4:39:26 AM PDT by GunnyB (Once a Marine, Always a Marine)
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To: tiki
Whenever any SKerry rep is on TV while they speak I say the St. Michael prayer, the Glory Be, and the Fatima prayer out loud then I never have to listen to them talk.

Yes. Excellent.

If one looks in Kerry's eyes, they are dark, cold, empty, no soul.

Hillary's eyes...something's home though.

195 posted on 10/18/2004 10:41:19 AM PDT by Siobhan (Pray without ceasing.)
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To: saradippity

May I recommend exhaling (*grin*) with the Chaplet of St. Michael the Archangel?


196 posted on 10/18/2004 10:42:55 AM PDT by Siobhan (Pray without ceasing.)
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To: Siobhan
What,and lose that dizzy,light-hearted feeling?!? Hey,I am now learning to revel in it.

Hi Siobhan,good to see you again!!

197 posted on 10/18/2004 11:00:06 AM PDT by saradippity
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To: Ravens70
The Candidate's Wife

"After a brief courtship, a short period of cohabitation, and the signing of a prenuptial agreement, the Kerrys were married in a civil ceremony on Nantucket in 1995."

198 posted on 10/18/2004 2:07:48 PM PDT by Fifthmark
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To: MagnumRancid
"Confession every Saturday afternoon, Mass every Sunday morning. She saw to it that all eight grandchildren went to Catholic school. She would have rather poked her eyes out than voted for a Republican. FDR was a hero and JFK was a saint."

Sounds like a case of invincible ignorance. Just kidding... or maybe not.

199 posted on 10/18/2004 2:08:28 PM PDT by DestroytheDemocrats
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To: Ravens70

"Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) has applied to the Archdiocese of Washington for an annulment of his marriage to Julia Thorne, the mother of his two grown children. Kerry and Thorne divorced in 1988; Kerry married Teresa Heinz, the widow of Sen. John Heinz, in her Nantucket home in 1995.

"Thorne, who lives in Wyoming, has written a letter to the archdiocese opposing Kerry's petition. She could not be reached for comment yesterday. She wrote that she supports her former husband but is disturbed by the Catholic Church's process because she feels it demeans their relationship and their children. And she has written a blurb featured on the book jacket of 'Shattered Faith,' in which Joe's ex Sheila Rauch Kennedy blasts the church's annulment policy as unfair.

"Asked to comment on why Kerry wants to annul his first marriage, and for his response to his ex-wife's opposition, the senator's office released this statement: 'Sen. Kerry very much understands Julia's feelings and appreciates her support. Sen. Kerry believes that this is a private family matter.'"
-- Ann Gerhart and Annie Groer, "The Reliable Source," Washington Post, 10 April 1997

There is no evidence that the annulment he "applied" for was ever granted - although that is an appeal to ignorance, so take it or leave it. It is certain that the Church holds his "marriage" to Teresa Heinz as invalid, whether or not he was validly married to his first wife still, as it took place in a civil ceremony.

Can. 1108 §1 Only those marriages are valid which are contracted in the presence of the local Ordinary or parish priest or of the priest or deacon delegated by either of them, who, in the presence of two witnesses, assists, in accordance however with the rules set out in the following canons, and without prejudice to the exceptions mentioned in cann. 144, 1112 §1, 1116 and 1127 §§2 - 3. (1983 CIC)


200 posted on 10/18/2004 2:28:43 PM PDT by Fifthmark
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