Posted on 10/15/2004 2:43:15 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
Independent Review Finds Bush Records Texas National Guard Officials Missed By Matt Kelley Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) - Weeks after Texas National Guard officials signed an oath swearing they had turned over all of President Bush's military records, independent examiners found more than two dozen pages of previously unreleased documents about Bush. The two retired Army lawyers went through Texas files under an agreement between the Texas Guard and The Associated Press, which sued to gain access to the files. The 31 pages of documents turned over to AP Thursday night include orders for high-altitude training in 1972, less than three months before Bush abruptly quit flying as a fighter pilot.
The discovery is the latest in a series of embarrassments for Pentagon and Texas National Guard officials who have repeatedly said they found and released all of Bush's Vietnam-era military files, only to belatedly discover more records. Those discoveries - nearly 100 pages, including Bush's pay records and flight logs - have been the result of freedom of information lawsuits filed in federal and Texas courts by AP.
A Texas National Guard spokesman defended the continuing discoveries, saying Guard officials didn't find all of Bush's records because they are disorganized and in poor shape.
"These boxes are full of dirt and rat (excrement) and dead bugs. They have never been sitting in an uncontrolled climate," said Lt. Col. John Stanford. "It's a tough task to go through archives that were not set up in a way that you could easily go through them."
(Excerpt) Read more at ap.tbo.com ...
VVAW FBI Files, Section 17
page 95-102
re: Houston VVAW National Steering Committee Meeting(snip)
Information was received from the "Intelligence Center" which is run by Mike Roche, VVAW Regional Coordinator, Cambridge, Massachusetts, and includes the "Ad Hoc Committee on U.S. Military Buildup in Indochina" which is composed of the "Chicago Area Military Project," the GI Movement people and the GI Press Services. The information was that 6 ships, 181 aircraft, and 11,000 personnel have been dispatched to the Republic of Vietnam (RVN); that 160 planes, 4 ships, and 5,500 hundred personnel are to be dispatched to RVN within 48 to 72 hours; that 5 ships, 115 planes, and 1,300 personnel to be dispatched in few days to unknown destination; that 21 ships, 173 planes, 8,500 personnel, have already been dispatched to destinations unknown; that 3 ships, 9 aircraft, and 26,000 personnel are to be dispatched soon, destination unknown, capabilities unknown; that 7 aircraft carriers, including the Saratoga, Midway, and Constellation, presently assigned in Gulf of Tonkin and armed with nuclear weapons; that a 400 man special operations unit similar to unit that raided Prisoner of War (POW) camps in North Vietnam, has been deployed, destination unknown; that major military installations in U. S. on alert. Intelligence Center obtained above information from active duty military personnel throughout U.S. Intelligence Center received "no comment" from Pentagon officials and Intelligence Center plans to release all information gathered to the press.
(snip)
VVAW concerned with mobilization of U. S. forces on global scale such as 7th Marine Division in Okinawa, Marines at Camp Pendleton, California; absence of F-104 jet fighters from east coast bases; absence of Cargo planes including C-5A Transports from Travis Air Force Base, California, and Air National Guard standby alert nationwide.
I wonder if the same team of experts could look for my lost Army Reserve records! I've been trying for more than 15 years to get my complete set of records from the Reserves and only get a scant few documents. The recordskeeping of the Reserves/Guards is horrible.
More Dan Ratheresque forgies, only this time from AP
Oh! and I forgot to add something about forgery. AP should know something about rat schidt and rat schidt-soaked documents.....they generate it every day.......
VVAW distributes literature at an event that is used to collect intelligence on military tactics and methods in Vietnam. Considering the fact that the VVAW has meetings with the North Vietnam Communists and VVAW members travel to Moscow and Hanoi, this is a very serious matter. VVAW collects military intelligence concerning US tactics and methods in Vietnam War. To read the type of intell the VVAW was collecting from the Vietnam veterans go to page 51-57 of the link to the FBI files.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1241877/posts?page=1
Good point!
Leaders of the VVAW meet with Soviet KGB agents while Kerry is a national leader.
Not to forget VVAW leaders going to Cuba to join the Venceremos Brigade, as well as trips to Hanoi, Paris, Stockholm, etc. I've been slowly reading through those files and get more irate every day that our media remains silent. (Of course, I see in the FBI files the names of our media on some of those same trips to Hanoi).
MSM, the horse is dead; you can stop beating it.
We won't see them. They are doing this only to try to counteract the swift boats airing on Sinclair
If anyone does genealogy and sends for files from the National Archives...not only does it take FOREVER to get a reply, but sometimes you can find different items each time you conduct a search.
"(Of course, I see in the FBI files the names of our media on some of those same trips to Hanoi)."
Yeah, CBS among others was at it back then, too. And then there was Peter Arnett. . .
First check Sandy Bergler's socks.
Yep, CBS and Arnett were prominent, as was Robert Scheer (with his 1st wife)... now an LA Times Columnist
It seems like there's a whole nest of Vietnam-era antiwar journalist and reporters who have risen through the ranks since then.
So where's the Republican outcry about the double standard here? Can't the bloggers pull together and get the word out about this like they did with the Rathergate memo?
Several VVAW leaders traveled to Moscow!
Apparently not. Not yet. The advantage we had with Rathergate was that ABC, WSJ, Washington Post, et al could help take down a competitor -- CBS.
They have no interest, however, in taking down Kerry.
The point has been made amply -- by talk radio, the conservative journals and bloggers, etc. -- that Kerry should sign his SF-180. But, this time, there is no echo in the MSM.
Instead, they robotically repeat "His campaign says that they have posted all his records on the website". Which is a lie...and they know it.
Curiosity is no longer a strong journalistic trait.
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