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Home schooling children provides advantages
Kansas State Collegian ^ | Thursday, October 14, 2004 | Mary Renee Smith

Posted on 10/15/2004 11:41:53 AM PDT by cinives

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To: 2Jedismom

To Jedismom,
Put me on please!
Thanks


61 posted on 10/15/2004 1:18:29 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (W is for WOOD!)
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To: morkfork

My boys all went to Montessori schools that were run by the Franciscan nuns when they were small. The boys, not the nuns. It gave them a great head start for public school. They are or were in Advanced Placement classes. (My eldest is now in the Navy)


62 posted on 10/15/2004 1:22:19 PM PDT by annyokie ("I have a plan" (™))
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To: trillabodilla
That's OK, sniveling is sometimes necessary for sanity.

You might search the homeschooling web sites for "ammo" (there are thousands!), as well as look into local homeschool co-ops and support groups, to inform your husband re homeschooling successes/facts/benefits and finding an appropriate social group in your area. It is harder to find groups for teens and fairly easy for younger children, many find. Go meet some local homeschoolers and show your husband that they are not weird.

Additionally, do what I did and research the literature on the side effects of the meds. Peter Breggin and others are good resources for a start. You might not be aware that certain meds like Ritalin disqualify a kid from jobs in the military and other occupations. I'm not sure of the extent of this - all positions or just some of the more sensitive jobs - but the info is out there if you look.

Maybe with more info, your husband would consider changing his mind, who knows.

Best of luck - freepmail me if you want some specific links, not to mention I'm sure quite a few people here could point you in any direction you'd like to know more about.

63 posted on 10/15/2004 1:28:35 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

Done!


65 posted on 10/15/2004 1:30:56 PM PDT by 2Jedismom (HHD)
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To: Thumbellina

I lived in Hawaii for 4 years. I spite of having so many mixed marriages, it is a VERY racist place.
The Micronesians have a very bad attitude and many of the native Hawaiian/hapa-haoli population also have gotten used to the very large goverment teat over there. Makes for an "I don't care" attitude. Not all of course, but I experienced it also.
I am glad you are homeschooling.


66 posted on 10/15/2004 1:36:21 PM PDT by Conservatrix ("He's a barf." --- Sophia T., Age 4, on John Baldrick "I have a cunning plan" Kerry)
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To: ican'tbelieveit
I have the same problem with my daughter. It is horrific grading her schoolwork some days. But she can outtype me at 80 wpm some days.

Sounds like you have future doctors and engineers there....referencing their handwriting skills.

67 posted on 10/15/2004 1:36:48 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: Servant of the 9
"When you home school, you are being a nasty old elitist."

Maybe in times past. Now it would more likely mean you are on the front lines of the culture war.

In other words, there's no chance my kids will have to bow to Mecca in order to learn about Islam.

68 posted on 10/15/2004 1:42:53 PM PDT by Sam's Army (Reject Materialism)
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To: Conservatrix

I call it the Great Asian Soup Mix LOL. You're right not all but many. We're a military family and may of us have gone to homeschooling. Also many other military kids have been subjected to harrassment. One 6 yr old girl was constantly coming home with bruises, her mother went to the princple and told him, "If my daughter comes home with one more bruise, I will sue this school system!" That's just one example. It's not enough that these children have to endure parents on long deployments to Iraq but to be subjected to this kind of harrassment? They are called white trash, Hate Haoley day which they are beaten up etc.


69 posted on 10/15/2004 1:44:21 PM PDT by Thumbellina (As I recall, Kerry referred to terrorism as "overrated".)
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To: FrankWild

I'm so sorry! I sent you that private reply thinking you were a woman! Duh, on the football team! Please forgive me. Nothing personal in the reply, I'm just gushing over my husband! Your wife might enjoy reading it as I'm absolutely sure that you see her the exact same way!


70 posted on 10/15/2004 1:45:05 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (W is for WOOD!)
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To: 2Jedismom

Thanks for the ping, 2J!

To all the parents out there doing what's best for their kids - and that isn't always homeschooling in the classical sense - let me just say this: your kids will be grateful someday! I know I am. Seems like I'm still discovering ways in which my education was superior to 95% of my peers'.


71 posted on 10/15/2004 2:00:54 PM PDT by JenB
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To: TXBubba

Thanks for the ping!!!!


72 posted on 10/15/2004 2:13:09 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Thumbellina
Would I perfer to have my children in school? YES. I have to consider their future and college.

Don't worry. Your children will be wanted by colleges *because* they are homeschooled. I just sent my oldest off to Grove City College after being homeschooled all his life. He's doing great there. He only applied to one other school, but he got into that school's honors program. It's the same for all homeschooled students who do well at home--they will be accepted to colleges and do well there also.

73 posted on 10/15/2004 2:54:33 PM PDT by cantfindagoodscreenname (Pave the Rainforest!)
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To: 2Jedismom; cinives

Thank you for the ping, J'smom. : )

Excellent article.


74 posted on 10/15/2004 3:03:27 PM PDT by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: cinives
I just *love* reading all the stories here about their homeschool experiences. I'm starting my fourteenth year of homeschooling and I still get goosebumps reading about how well other homeschool families are doing and why they are doing it.

I have been very successful in the area of academics with my kids. My oldest son just went off to Grove City College in August. My fifteen year old is taking college courses (a programming course and discrete math) and loving it. My other two kids also do very well.

I'd like to caution people not to get too caught up in how well the kids do academically because not all children will become rocket scientists just because they are homeschooled. But, all of our children can be taught good values, including a good work ethic. The child who isn't "brilliant" academically might do well in a trade or in a business that requires "know how" as opposed to book-smarts. I sometimes regret that I have pushed academics so much in my house because I'm ending up with brainy kids who don't always show the character I'd like to see. Perhaps I'm just being overly critical because I thought I'd have perfect children by the time they turned 18. I don't know. But, I am learning that prayer works wonders, especially when you don't have the child living with you anymore. I've learned to trust God and stop trying to make things happen myself.

I wish the best to all of you here who homeschool and to the woman who would like to homeschool but whose husband is against it. Try to fill your son's spare time with educational, but enjoyable activities. You don't want to overburden him with work on top of his regular schoolwork, but you might be able to instill in him a love of learning and teach him that learning doesn't only take place in the classroom. If you stay on top of your son's education, he'll do fine.

75 posted on 10/15/2004 3:07:15 PM PDT by cantfindagoodscreenname (Pave the Rainforest!)
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To: Thumbellina

I remember about Haole Day. I thought it was "Kill Haole Day" actually.


76 posted on 10/15/2004 3:21:28 PM PDT by Conservatrix ("He's a barf." --- Sophia T., Age 4, on John Baldrick "I have a cunning plan" Kerry)
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To: Conservatrix

Ha! I'ts prolly both.


77 posted on 10/15/2004 3:22:52 PM PDT by Thumbellina (As I recall, Kerry referred to terrorism as "overrated".)
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To: 2Jedismom
Thanks for the home school ping, as always. Down the thread, as usual, I see a family struggling with the decision. It seems to be common. Mrs dono and I did not; we had settled it when we began to consider marriage.

In preparing for home school, we did a lot of reading. Some of the absolute indictment against the institutional school as currently constituted, comes from John Taylor Gatto. He was a Teacher of the Year in the NYC public schools.

"The Underground History of American Education" is available on line.

Here is the link, then a snip.

From the Prologue

Our problem in understanding forced schooling stems from an inconvenient fact: that the wrong it does from a human perspective is right from a systems perspective. You can see this in the case of six-year-old Bianca, who came to my attention because an assistant principal screamed at her in front of an assembly, "BIANCA, YOU ANIMAL, SHUT UP!" Like the wail of a banshee, this sang the school doom of Bianca. Even though her body continued to shuffle around, the voodoo had poisoned her. Do I make too much of this simple act of putting a little girl in her place? It must happen thousands of times every day in schools all over. I’ve seen it many times, and if I were painfully honest I’d admit to doing it many times. Schools are supposed to teach kids their place. That’s why we have age-graded classes. In any case, it wasn’t your own little Janey or mine. Most of us tacitly accept the pragmatic terms of public school which allow every kind of psychic violence to be inflicted on Bianca in order to fulfill the prime directive of the system: putting children in their place. It’s called "social efficiency." But I get this precognition, this flash-forward to a moment far in the future when your little girl Jane, having left her comfortable home, wakes up to a world where Bianca is her enraged meter maid, or the passport clerk Jane counts on for her emergency ticket out of the country, or the strange lady who lives next door. I picture this animal Bianca grown large and mean, the same Bianca who didn’t go to school for a month after her little friends took to whispering, "Bianca is an animal, Bianca is an animal," while Bianca, only seconds earlier a human being like themselves, sat choking back tears, struggling her way through a reading selection by guessing what the words meant.

78 posted on 10/15/2004 3:24:16 PM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: TomSmedley
"My oldest two kids finally went to a public school -- NC State University. They still have seven-year-old handwriting, alas, since I taught them to type around that age. Dori can hit 135 wpm, though, on the old keyboard!"

Glad I'm not the only one! lol

My son was diagnosed with dysgraphia in 2nd grade. Even with accommodations, it caused him to struggle. If he needed to write, the writing itself became the miserable focus, between his own difficulty in making the effort and the other children making fun of him.

We started homeschooling last spring, his 4th grade. I was petrified. lol But now... it's the most fulfilling and interesting thing I've ever done.

Not only is he is making awesome strides in all academic areas, but I'm thrilled as every week I see him more interested in learning - he's finally *hungry* for knowledge.

Anyway... I bought a program he loves and he's learning to type well. Once a day I have him do about 10 minutes of handwriting. I've worried over it, but pushing him doesn't seem to be worth the time or frustration.

Your post helps me to relax. : )
79 posted on 10/15/2004 3:31:47 PM PDT by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: TXBubba

Son is definitely engineer material... he is constantly building stuff with popsicle sticks, clay, glue.

Thinking the girl will be some kind of teacher or something. Although, she was talking military a few weeks ago... but 13 yo's, females.


80 posted on 10/15/2004 3:32:12 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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