Posted on 10/15/2004 12:52:24 AM PDT by Steve Schulin
It's all a misunderstanding !!
What they MEANT to say was:
It's a fact that global warming is caused by Mann."
Located here:
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/research/trcres.html
Junk science. Garbage in, research grants out.
Here are some other recent criticisms of the hockey stick which apply not just to Mann et al., but to other multiproxy studies too:
* In the body of the UN IPCC 2001 science working group assessment report, it was noted that if our best understanding of glacier retreat evidence is on track, the warming trend started earlier than depicted by the hockey stick. This would spread out the recent warming currently restricted to the 20th century part of the curve. Here's the frank statement in the body of the TAR: "...the timing of the onset of glacier retreat implies that a significant global warming is likely to have started not later than the mid-19th century. This conflicts with the Jones et al. (2001) global land instrumental temperature data (Figure 2.1), and the combined hemispheric and global land and marine data (Figure 2.7), where clear warming is not seen until the beginning of the 20th century. This conclusion also conflicts with some (but not all) of the palaeo-temperature reconstructions in Figure 2.21, Section 2.3 , where clear warming, e.g., in the Mann et al. (1999) Northern Hemisphere series, starts at about the same time as in the Jones et al. (2001) data. These discrepancies are currently unexplained."
* In his 2004 paper, Craig Loehle showed that the multiproxy method inherently tends to produce flatter shape due to smearing. Each proxy record has dating error. By combining the proxies, the multiproxy approach inherently tends to smear variability out of the record [Ref: Loehle. Using Historical Climate Data to Evaluate Climate Trends: Issues of Statistical Inference. Energy & Environment, 15(1):1-10, 2004]. This was a meaningful challenge to the flat shape of the curve, quite independent from the McIntyre and McKitrick point about the Mann et al. PCA technique.
* In their Science paper released this month, von Storch et al. showed that the multiproxy study error ranges do not include a significant uncertainty. This was a meaningful challenge to the gray area of the curve. [Ref: http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/1096109v1 -- von Storch et al. Reconstructing Past Climate from Noisy Data. ScienceExpress, October 1, 2004]
There's more evidence of WMDs in Iraq then there is of Global Warming.
Maybe it's a horse hockey stick.
Is the faulty computer program availabile on the web or elsewhere?
The obvious study is to take their program and systematically vary the length of the time period over which the normalization is performed, and compare the resultant predictions.
Somehow, it would nor surprise me to find that they
'accidentally' (of course) happened to choose the one
time period for the normalization procedure which would
maximize the appearance of global warming in the late 20th
century and beyond.
Big bump!
Yup! I remember those dire predictions. Don't forget we would all be starving by 2010 as well.
Global Warming bump
Great post, thanks
A "Save this in your Global Warming 'Word' File Later" BUMP!
I'm always on the lookout for those ubiquitous late '60's Volvos sporting "End Global Cooling!" bumperstickers.....
Translation: We need more funding.
American Hockey enthusiasts were hoping for better news, like an inverted "hockey stick". Cooler makes for better outdoor practice.
ftp://holocene.evsc.virginia.edu/pub/MBH98/TREE/ITRDB/NOAMER/pca-noamer.f
As for the PCA itself, Mann et al just say it's conventional, without mentioning any particular software.
ftp://holocene.evsc.virginia.edu/pub/MBH98/TREE/ITRDB/NOAMER/pca-noamer.f
As for the PCA itself, Mann et al just say it's conventional, without mentioning any particular software.
G'rrr. It figures. Well, at least I can download the code and make it run twice as fast ;-)
Interesting read, thanks for the ping.
The graphics and references were a real plus.
Cheers,
knews hound
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