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American Seniors Buy Cheaper Medicines In Canada
http://www.wftv.com ^ | October 14, 2004 | http://www.wftv.com

Posted on 10/14/2004 10:59:58 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather

American Seniors Buy Cheaper Medicines In Canada Group Hopes To Send Political Statement

POSTED: 10:44 pm EDT October 14, 2004 UPDATED: 12:48 am EDT October 15, 2004

TORONTO -- A train dubbed the "RX Express" has arrived in Toronto.

COST IN CANADA

It's carrying Americans seeking to stock up on cheaper Canadian prescriptions. They also hope to send a political statement to federal regulators and lawmakers.

The trip -- which originated in Florida -- was organized by the Foundation for Taxpayer Consumer Rights. Founder Jerry Flannagman says the point of the trip is to bring about a change in U.S. policy.

A Pennsylvania woman who spends $556 a month on asthma medications says she hopes to save about 50 percent.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration opposes commercial prescription imports, but individuals can buy a three-month supply of medicine if they have a U.S. prescription.

Previous Stories: October 12, 2004: Elderly Board RX Express For Canada October 1, 2004: FDA Raises Questions About Canadian Drug Web Site Copyright 2004 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canada; medicines; prescriptiondrugs; rxexpress; seniors
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Too bad it is not a ONE WAY TRIP.
1 posted on 10/14/2004 10:59:58 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: sheikdetailfeather

In an unrelated story, seniors dying a alarming rates from bad medicine bought in Canada. Kerry says it's Bush's fault.


2 posted on 10/14/2004 11:01:30 PM PDT by DSBull (Leather Belts, with Liberal logic everywhere they are keeping my head from exploding)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Kerry criticized the president for allowing outsourcing of US Jobs to grow , yet he believes that Americans should outsource their local pharmacy to Canada? Great, at least he is consistent about taking two sides on every issue...


3 posted on 10/14/2004 11:08:42 PM PDT by seastay
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Many pharmaceuticals that are manufactured in such delightful places as Bengla Desh end up being transported across Canada for distribution to the Caribbean and Africa.

Canada provides cheap, refrigerated, and relatively safe transit by rail and truck which might well explain this.

Not all that stuff ends up where it's intended. Canadians get to consume more of it than they wished.

Even has American drug manufacturers' names on it too!

4 posted on 10/14/2004 11:09:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: DSBull

With all due respect . . . Go pound broken glass up your ass.

I buy my meds from Canada. They are the same drugs, made in the same labs, by the same Drug Companys. The only difference is they are affordable, and do not have those stupid child-resistant caps on the bottles. I pay aprox. $225 a month for meds that would cost over $675 a month here.


5 posted on 10/14/2004 11:10:12 PM PDT by Petruchio (<===Looks Sexy in a flightsuit . . . Looks Silly in a french maid outfit)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
As if a country of 30 million could supply a country of 300 million with cheaper drugs, from American companies no less.

What's wrong with this picture?

Oh the "evil" of it all, LOL.

6 posted on 10/14/2004 11:11:32 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: sheikdetailfeather
The entire population of Canada is less than the population of California.

If many US citizens decide to puchase Canadian drugs and the basic economic law of supply and demand holds, what do these idots think will be the result?

For thinking individuals the result will be shortages of drugs in Canada, Canadian national health care in crisis, the Canadian government enacting laws against US citizens buying drugs in Canada, the price of drugs to all in Canada going through the roof, probably as high or higher than those in the US.

I like it, Democratic Party "do-gooders" destroy Canadian Health Care system and convince all in the United States that nationalized health care is stupid!

Go Democrats! The laws of unintended consequences.

7 posted on 10/14/2004 11:16:58 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Petruchio
You are correct that they are essentially the same drugs.

However, they are sold under Canadian price controls.

You are "importing" Canadian price controls into the U.S.

One of two things will happen:

(1) U.S. companies will stop selling drugs to Canada because they cannot cover their costs if U.S. consumers pay controlled Canadian prices.

(2) U.S. companies will stop creating new drugs that might save your sorry life should you develop a new ailment.

So enjoy, free lunches don't last long in the real world.

8 posted on 10/14/2004 11:19:32 PM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: Petruchio

When we have turned our nation into the eastern block, who is going to come and bail us out? After you nit wits undercut the potential of our drug manufacturers to make enough profits to reinvest, who will be the next big inventor of the medications that can help you?

Please name for us one medication that was researched, tested and manufactured in Canada or Mexico over the last fifty years.

You are destroying any hope future U.S. citizens have for continuing to remain on the cutting edge of R & D. And what's more, it's because you're a selfish a.h. "I got mine, F the next generation!"

Well bless mother government, pretty soon the freebies will be rolling in as nanny state dispenses medications to the lemings without a clue. Ah what's the problem, the kids will pay for it.


9 posted on 10/14/2004 11:22:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Petruchio
I buy my meds from Canada. They are the same drugs, made in the same labs, by the same Drug Companys. The only difference is they are affordable, and do not have those stupid child-resistant caps on the bottles. I pay aprox. $225 a month for meds that would cost over $675 a month here.

When I lived in AZ I knew quite a few seniors from Sun City and those environs, who would take the bus, usually every Saturday, I believe, down to Mexico to buy their drugs. They had a doctor on board who would check the prescriptions to ensure that the drugs they were going to get were high quality. (From what they told me, not ALL the cheap drugs to be gotten down there were of good quality, that's why they had some "authority" go with them). Anyway, that's my ancedotal addition to this thread.

10 posted on 10/14/2004 11:29:11 PM PDT by Boomer Geezer (Sgt. Wanda Dabbs, 22, of the 230th, called out, "That's my president, hooah!" and there were cheers.)
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To: Petruchio
Down here in Texas people go down to Mexico for their Drugs and they are around a quarter of the price.

But, the President said during the Second Debate that the Prescription Drugs from Canada were not safe. You would have thought he was talking about drugs from Uganda.

The worse thing about the entire prescription drug debate is that Bush is on the wrong side of the argument and the seniors are going to vote against him.

11 posted on 10/14/2004 11:32:42 PM PDT by pete anderson
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Thankyou, Petruchio. My husband buys his drugs from the Canadiandrugstore.com and pays 1/2 to 2/3 less on his prescriptions!

They're American made drugs, exact same medication that we had to pay a fortune for in this country.

My neighbor is a Senior...they're really angry. Not only are did the tax on their benefits go up, but the drug companys...right up the chain to the pharmacies...upped their drug prices because of the Corporate Welfare bonanza we taxpayers are stuck paying for. Worse, he has to pay $420. per month for one medication that his HMO choice won't pay for. It's doing him virtually no good. I live by a Senior community. I've heard the same tale many times over.

That program is a real problem. It was look good legislation that was merely Corporate Welfare in disguise.


12 posted on 10/14/2004 11:36:48 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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Last I heard there is now a 50% shortage of the flu vaccine because a Brit company's entire sock of vaccine was contaminated. But what the hell lets just import drugs from every where. At least will save a few bucks.
13 posted on 10/14/2004 11:37:10 PM PDT by TheTwelvePack (WTF is Allen Keys doing?)
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To: Petruchio
Good to see that FR allows DUmmies online, because only they are not smart enough to refrain from hollering insults, are you headed to some Bush headquarter to beat up little old Ladies...

Geez if this is all you can do, go away..
14 posted on 10/14/2004 11:37:45 PM PDT by DSBull (Leather Belts, with Liberal logic everywhere they are keeping my head from exploding)
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To: DSBull

DUde,

You have been here about one month. I have been here over 6 years. Try again . . .


15 posted on 10/14/2004 11:41:08 PM PDT by Petruchio (<===Looks Sexy in a flightsuit . . . Looks Silly in a french maid outfit)
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To: rebel_yell2
You are correct that they are essentially the same drugs.
However, they are sold under Canadian price controls.
You are "importing" Canadian price controls into the U.S.
One of two things will happen:
(1) U.S. companies will stop selling drugs to Canada because they cannot cover their costs if U.S. consumers pay controlled Canadian prices.
(2) U.S. companies will stop creating new drugs that might save your sorry life should you develop a new ailment.
So enjoy, free lunches don't last long in the real world.

You're right about that... but its even worse than that.

Canada basically blackmails US pharmaceutical companies into selling the drugs to Canada at a loss under their price controls. If the drug company refuses to sell at that price, Canada will refuse to enforce any patent claim on the drug, so then the company will face a flood of generics that merely copy the drug and sell it globally.

The generic copies can afford to do it, of course, because they have none of the R&D and testing costs to recover.

This issue threatens to kill drug development. Pure and simple.

16 posted on 10/14/2004 11:41:47 PM PDT by Ramius (Time? What time do you think we have?)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING; Petruchio

I don't think corporate welfare is the right term.

US drug consumers are paying all of the development overhead for drugs that are sold elsewhere under brutally unfair price controls.


17 posted on 10/14/2004 11:45:43 PM PDT by Ramius (Time? What time do you think we have?)
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To: Petruchio
MY point stands, 'dude' only Rats believe that hollering insults is the way to win a debate.

First Bush is not saying that all drugs in Canada are bad, he is saying that he wants to make sure that their are some quality controls in place to make sure that bad ones will not get through.

You guys are the same people that will be screaming for an impeachment when or if people start getting sick because there are no controls.

I have cancer, RA, Heart disease and diabetes, I too have a drug bill, but I want to make sure, before I buy drug that they meet some minimum standard of quality.
18 posted on 10/14/2004 11:46:14 PM PDT by DSBull (Leather Belts, with Liberal logic everywhere they are keeping my head from exploding)
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To: DoughtyOne

Please name for us one medication that was researched, tested and manufactured in Canada or Mexico over the last fifty years.

VIOXX for the treatment of osteoarthritis
SINGULAIR a once a day pill for athsma. FOSAMAX® (alendronate sodium) for osteoporosis, MAXALT® (rizatriptan benzoate) for migraine, AGGRASTAT® (tirofiban hydrochloride) for unstable angina, CRIXIVAN® (indinavir sulfate) for HIV/AIDS, COZAAR® § (losartan potassium) for hypertension and ZOCOR® (simvastatin) for lowering cholesterol.
All developed in Canada in the past decade.
It took me 5 minutes to look that up. Try a google search under Canadian drug research and development.
Now do you understand why some of the most widely prescribed drugs are cheaper in Canada. They were developed in Canada.


19 posted on 10/14/2004 11:46:22 PM PDT by Tokara
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To: DSBull

What insults? I did say "With all due respect", it is just with less than a month on FR not a lot of respect is due . . .

Now to the point, If the medications are made in the same Corp., in the same Lab, in the same department, and placed in the same bottles, Then they do fall under the same quality controls. The only physical difference in the packaging is the lack of child-resistant packaging. And frankly all child-resistant packaging does is make it hard for adults to open the stuff.

The medications are the same, period.


20 posted on 10/15/2004 12:04:32 AM PDT by Petruchio (<===Looks Sexy in a flightsuit . . . Looks Silly in a french maid outfit)
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