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1 posted on 10/14/2004 9:47:11 PM PDT by notkerry
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To: notkerry; risk; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Joy Angela; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl

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At the time of JOHN KERRY's time in Vietnam. 34 years ago, the life expectancy of Vietnamese Males was just 30 years old.

How many of these Viet Cong Villagers were really witnesses to JOHN KERRY's military actions and how many of them are actually still alive today to be interviewed on America TV, I wonder..?


JOHN KERRY = Enemy of Vietnam Vets

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1320


...and of Freedom-Loving people everywhere.

...still..!!!

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2 posted on 10/14/2004 9:59:11 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: notkerry

Viet Nam at first denied the request to go to the village and then a few months later they changed their minds. Could it be that it took a few months of teaching the villagers how to respond? Could it be that abc was a party to this and knew what the Viet Nam government was doing? Maybe even providing the questions before they arrived so the Viet Namese government would know what questions so they could develop answers and then teach the villagers how to respond? The story of the other men who came with a camera and left. Koppel let that one get by him. He said they had to have a minder with them all the time. They mentioned nothing of a minder for the other two men. The Viet Namese government would have know who they were...who they talked with...what answers they were given.


3 posted on 10/14/2004 9:59:54 PM PDT by Trepz
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To: notkerry

Ted Koppel, and ABC viewers, you've been had!


4 posted on 10/14/2004 10:00:40 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: notkerry

Senate Select Committee Testimony & Depositions

http://www.aiipowmia.com/ssc/mccreary.html

Memos of John F. McCreary
April 27, 1992

Memorandum for:
Vice Chairman, Senate Select Committee on Prisoners of War and Missing in Action

From:John F. McCreary

Subject:Legal Misconduct and Possible Malpractice in the Select Committee

1. As a member of the Virginia State Bar, I am obliged by Disciplinary Rule DR-1-103(a) to report knowledge of misconduct by an attorney "to a tribunal or other authority empowered to investigate or act upon such violations." Under Rule IV, Paragraph 13, of the Rules for the integration of the Virginia State Bar, this obligation follows me as a member of the Bar, regardless of the location of my employment, for as long as I remain a member of the Virginia State Bar. Therefore, I am obliged, as a matter of law and under pain of discipline by the Virginia State Bar, to report to you my knowledge of misconduct and possible prima facie malpractice by attorneys on the Select Committee in ordering the destruction of Staff documents containing Staff intelligence findings on 9 April 1992 and in statements in meetings on 15 and 16 April to justify the destruction.

2. The attached Memoranda For the Record, one by myself and another by Mr. Jon D. Holstine, describe the relevant facts, which I summarize herein:

a. On 9 April 1992, the Chairman of the Senate Select Committee, Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, in response to a protest by other members of the Select Committee, told the Select Committee members that "all copies" would be destroyed. This statement was made in the presence of the undersigned and of the Staff Chief Counsel who offered no protest.

b. Later on 9 April 1992, the Staff Director, Frances Zwenig, an attorney, repeated and insured the execution of Senator Kerry's order for the destruction of the Staff intelligence briefing text. I personally delivered to Mr. Barry Valentine, the Security Manager for SRB-78, the original printed version of the intelligence briefing text. I also verified that the original was destroyed by shredding in the Office of Senate Security on 10 April 1992, along with 14 copies.

c. On 15 April 1992, the Staff Chief Counsel, J. William Codinha of Massachusetts, when advised by members if the Staff about their concerns over the possible criminal consequences of destroying documents, minimized the significance of the act of destruction; ridiculed the Staff members for expressing their concerns; and replied, in response to questions about the potential consequences, "Who's the injured party," and "How are they going to find out because its classified." Mr. Codinha repeatedly defended the destruction of the documents and gave no assurances or indications that any copies of the intelligence briefing text existed.

d. On 16 April, the Chairman of the Senate Select Committee, Senator John Kerry, stated that he gave the order to destroy "extraneous copies of the documents" and that no one objected. Moreover, he stated that the issue was "moot" because the original remained in the Office of Senate Security "all along."

e. I subsequently learned that the Staff Director had deposited a copy of the intelligence briefing text in the Office of Senate Security at 1307 on 16 April.

3. The foregoing facts establish potentially a prima facie violation of criminal law and a pattern of violations of legal ethics by attorneys in acts of commission and omission.

a. It is hornbook law that an attorney may not direct the commission of a crime. In this incident two attorneys, one by his own admission, ordered the destruction of documents, which could be violation of criminal law.

b. Neither the Staff Chief Counsel nor any member of the Select Committee made a protest or uttered words of caution against the destruction of documents, by admission of the Chairman, Senator Kerry. The Chief Counsel has an affirmative duty to advise the Staff about the legality of its actions, and, in fact, had earlier issued the general prohibition to the Staff against document destruction.

c. The Chief Counsel's statements during the 15 April meeting to discuss the document destruction showed no regard for the legality of the action and displayed to the Staff only a concern about getting caught. By his words and actions, he presented to the Staff investigators an interpretation of the confidentiality and security rules that the rules of the Select Committee may be used to cover-up potentially unethical or illegal activity.

d. The Staff Director's action in placing an unaccounted for copy of the intelligence briefing text in the Office of Senate Security on 16 April constitutes an act to cover-up the destruction. Throughout the 16 April meeting, all three attorneys persisted in stating that the document had been on file since 9 April. This is simply not true.

4. I believe that the foregoing facts establish a pattern of grave legal misconduct - possibly including orders to commit a crime, followed by acts to justify and then to cover-up that crime. Even absent criminal liability, the behavioral pattern of the attorneys involved plays fast and loose with the Canons of Legal Ethics and establishes that one or more of the attorneys on the Select Committee are unfit to practice law. I am obliged to recommend that this report be filed with the appropriate disciplinary authorities of the State Bars in which these attorneys are members.

(Signed)
John F. McCreary, Esquire


5 posted on 10/14/2004 10:05:27 PM PDT by notkerry
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To: notkerry
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11 posted on 10/14/2004 10:10:51 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (GET OUT THE VOTE NOV 2 ! IF YOUR NEIGHBORS OR RELATIVES NEED A RIDE TO THE POLLS OFFER TO HELP)
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To: jwalsh07; kristinn

Related to Nightline/VC .... ping


12 posted on 10/14/2004 10:13:51 PM PDT by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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Very interesting. Thanks for the ping ntnychik, I think Kerry is not only devious, he is evil!


13 posted on 10/14/2004 10:15:03 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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To: alnick; Texasforever; spycatcher

Ping


14 posted on 10/14/2004 10:15:04 PM PDT by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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To: notkerry
Here's something Freeper nonkultur offered on another thread:

The guy who died in the battle's tombstone said H.S. 12.1.1969 That sure does not add up with February 28, 1969 the date of the battle.

Any thoughts?

15 posted on 10/14/2004 10:15:17 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: notkerry

17 posted on 10/14/2004 10:16:04 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: notkerry
Senator Kerry also prevented a vote on the Vietnam Human Rights Act (HR2833), which would have made lifting trade restrictions contingent on Communist Vietnam restoring basic human rights. By stopping this measure from becoming law, Kerry protected Marxist Vietnam from pressure to free its slave society.

Through much manipulation and arm-twisting, Kerry persuaded his now-defunct committee to vote unanimously that no POWs existed in Vietnam. And with the disappearance of this and the proposed human rights legislation, Kerry gave Bill Clinton and the Democratic Party the pretext they needed to begin re-opening trade that could help keep the Marxist Vietnamese dictatorship afloat. Those given first place in line for such trade opportunities, of course, were the biggest contributors to Democrats such as Senator Kerry and Bill Clinton.

The year after his committee’s vote to give Communist Vietnam a clean bill of health, the strangest thing happened. In December 1992 Vietnam signed its first huge commercial deal worth at least $905 million to develop a deep-sea commercial port at Vung Tau to accommodate all the trade that was to come. It signed the deal with a company called Colliers International. At the time, the Chief Executive Officer of this company was C. Stewart Forbes. Name sound familiar? It should. He is Senator John F. Kerry’s cousin. What a coincidence!

Less widely noticed, when the Democratic Party decided to give Kerry a leg up towards its presidential nomination by holding its 2004 National Convention in Boston, certain big corporations rushed to pony up money for the Democratic event. One of the first of these rushing to fill Democratic coffers was Spaulding & Slye Colliers, the current corporate partnership involving Colliers International, which anted up $100,000.

Source

18 posted on 10/15/2004 1:53:42 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: notkerry; All
To read the latest on the Franchurian Candidate's bizzare exploits, click the picture, goto "last," and work backwards:

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19 posted on 10/15/2004 2:44:04 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: notkerry

With the post-Vietnam POW/MIA issue and the multiple secret Paris talks, the North Vietnamese have so much dirt on Kerry, that they can "persuade" him to do anything.


20 posted on 10/15/2004 2:48:57 AM PDT by igoramus987
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To: notkerry

Didn't Ron Brown and Alexis Herman get something from Vietnam normalization? I remember something about it.


21 posted on 10/15/2004 2:51:03 AM PDT by Deb (A Democrat Stole My GREEN Sweater!!!)
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To: notkerry

Did Kerry's counsin Stewart Forbes serve in the Military?


28 posted on 10/17/2004 6:41:12 PM PDT by not2worry (What goes around comes around!)
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To: notkerry

bttt


32 posted on 10/17/2004 7:14:45 PM PDT by cookcounty (Kerry launched his career by trashing the VN Vets. He ends by trashing the NG. Such class.)
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