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NRA ready to bring the heat full-blast against Kerry
Chicago Sun Times ^ | October 14, 2004 | George Will

Posted on 10/14/2004 9:08:32 AM PDT by Pfesser

Edited on 10/14/2004 9:09:59 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Pfesser

I'll believe Kerry is pro-2nd Amendment when "Combat Handguns" endorses him.


21 posted on 10/14/2004 9:49:04 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Pfesser
Just an observation from last night's debate. On the assault weapons question, Kerry told this story:

I was hunting in Iowa last year with a sheriff from one of the counties there, and he pointed to a house in back of us, and said, "See the house over? We just did a drug bust a week earlier, and the guy we arrested had an AK-47 lying on the bed right beside him."

However, in an earlier campaign speech Kerry told the same story but he only used the term "assault rifle" leaning against the wall near the bed. I remember researching the local article and the sheriff clearly said it was a Ruger Mini-14 near the bed.

I realize this is just a technicality, but it goes to show that Kerry has once again changed the facts to present the most "menacing" scenario to security moms; an AK-47 on the bed sounds worse than the truth. And truth is not in John Kerry's corner.

22 posted on 10/14/2004 9:52:41 AM PDT by Sender (It is not their patriotism, but their judgment, that is so sorely lacking. -Zell Miller)
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To: Pfesser

about time....


23 posted on 10/14/2004 9:52:52 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Pfesser

It's about time!! Stomp em, NRA. Likewise to the Swift vets. Be relentless. Destroy the Traitor and his pathetic side-kick Ambulance Chaser.


24 posted on 10/14/2004 9:57:03 AM PDT by livinez
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To: JW Brown
Ready on the right! Who cares about the left! Ready on the Firing Line :). Commence fire!
25 posted on 10/14/2004 10:01:16 AM PDT by Toidylop (Anybody needs a stinking "global test" besides Kerry?)
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To: Sender

I also noticed his timeline does not account for the fact the AWB was in place and active on the date he spoke of, so either the gun was legally purchased/obtained, or it was obtained illegally during a time in which the ban was supposed to be effective. Reinforcing the point that the ban did little to deter criminals. IMO


26 posted on 10/14/2004 10:05:35 AM PDT by xander
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To: livinez

Amen! And to that I say Amen! But I call him a rat bastard traitor......


27 posted on 10/14/2004 10:06:24 AM PDT by ok42day (I can't believe Americans would vote for a traitor to be CIC!)
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To: Sender

Umm... there actually is a HUGE difference between an "AK-47" and a "Ruger Mini-14".

like the difference between fully automatic and semi-automatic, legal vs illegal (to the average joe w/out a class III).


28 posted on 10/14/2004 10:12:54 AM PDT by phasma proeliator (It's not always being fast or even accurate that counts... it's being willing.)
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To: xander

Actually - were it a Mini-14, THAT would still be legal even when the AWB was in place.

Were it an AK-47 that would still be ILLEGAL even without the AWB in place (again - unless the owner had a class III license).


29 posted on 10/14/2004 10:14:45 AM PDT by phasma proeliator (It's not always being fast or even accurate that counts... it's being willing.)
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To: Lando Lincoln

Best.Avatar.Ever.


30 posted on 10/14/2004 10:15:25 AM PDT by EllaMinnow (On November 2, keep in mind what mattered most on 9-11.)
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To: phasma proeliator

Regardless of whether the villain and the AK in sKerry's story indeed exist, semi-auto AK-47's have been perfectly legal and available for $300-400.00 at most any gun store in free America.


31 posted on 10/14/2004 10:23:28 AM PDT by AngryJawa (Happiness Is A Silent Blissninny)
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To: Pfesser; Joe Brower; Dan from Michigan
Here are exerpts of an article in today's paper about the NRA visit:

"The truth is John Kerry's the worst thing that could happen to the Second Amendment,'' LaPierre said.

Jennifer Palmieri, Kerry's Ohio spokeswoman, called the NRA's claims a "ridiculous distortion'' of his record.

"He's a believer in the Second Amendment,'' she said.

"Independent-minded NRA members will not be fooled,'' she said, adding that many of them do support Kerry.

Palmieri said Kerry is a sportsman and will be hunting in the Youngstown area next week. Details of the Oct. 21 visit have not been finalized.

Former state Rep. Michael Verich of Warren, a Democrat who is backing Bush, said while northeast Ohio is heavily Democratic, those are generally conservative Democrats who believe in the Second Amendment and less government intrusion into their lives. He said the gun issue could swing Ohio to the president in a tight election.

At one point during the press conference, LaPierre held up a Remington 11-87 and said that it is the kind of gun the presidential election is about. A similar gun was given to Keyword (WHO?..lol) last month in West Virginia. LaPierre said that in West Virginia, Kerry called the Remington a fine hunting gun, but in Washington he called it an assault weapon that would be banned under legislation Kerry supports.

However, Palmieri said the NRA made the same claim last month, and it was disproved. She said the Remington would be legal under the assault weapons ban.

Whole Article

They also had a picture of Mr. LaPierre holding the 1187, calling it an rifle!

32 posted on 10/14/2004 10:25:35 AM PDT by MissTargets
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To: AngryJawa

Are you talking about an AK-47 "Style" weapon or the actual AK-47....


33 posted on 10/14/2004 10:39:44 AM PDT by phasma proeliator (It's not always being fast or even accurate that counts... it's being willing.)
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To: Pfesser

John Kerry on deer hunting..."I go out with my trusty 12-guage double barrel, crawl around on my stomach. I track and move, decoy and play games and try to outsmart them. You know, kind of play the wind. That's hunting".

Yeah, right.


34 posted on 10/14/2004 11:10:17 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: phasma proeliator
I know the real AK is full auto, I was using the usual Kerry/Fineswine definition that means an "AK-47" is any semi-auto that remotely resembles a Kalashnikov.

Kerry and the other grabbers are counting on the security moms not to know the difference though. Millions of people still think the AWB was about machine guns and silencers.

35 posted on 10/14/2004 11:37:33 AM PDT by Sender (It is not their patriotism, but their judgment, that is so sorely lacking. -Zell Miller)
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To: xander
Very true; the AWB is almost a self-proving failure because many of the examples of crime the grabbers like to point to happened during the ban.

It's almost as if they don't finish their statement which would end with "Of course, we won't really be rid of assault weapons until we confiscate the millions already in private hands."

36 posted on 10/14/2004 11:41:52 AM PDT by Sender (It is not their patriotism, but their judgment, that is so sorely lacking. -Zell Miller)
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To: Sender
"Millions of people still think the AWB was about machine guns and silencers."

Unfortunately very true.... this is exactly why we should all be very precise and clear when discussing this issue.

That is NOT intended to be slam at you.

37 posted on 10/14/2004 11:49:06 AM PDT by phasma proeliator (It's not always being fast or even accurate that counts... it's being willing.)
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To: Pfesser

yes, yes, yes.


38 posted on 10/14/2004 11:57:25 AM PDT by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: Joe Brower

Yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaa Baaaaaaabyyyyyyy! Thass how ya do it!


39 posted on 10/14/2004 12:07:50 PM PDT by numberonepal (Cameras, ammo, arms, eyes, and ears on election day.)
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To: NOTTAHERO
Please support the NRA

Became a Life Member a few months ago.

40 posted on 10/14/2004 12:11:15 PM PDT by HolgerDansk ("Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.)
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