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Faux Amis: Antipathy between France and America is nothing new.
The Wall Street Journal Opinion Journal ^ | October 14, 2004 | Jeffrey Gedmin

Posted on 10/13/2004 9:55:50 PM PDT by quidnunc

Ah, the French. How to think of them? There is an easy default answer: kindly and gratefully. After all, they helped us in the Revolutionary War, gave us Alexis de Tocqueville and the Statue of Liberty, and to this day feel a keen republican spirit in harmony with America's own. Sure, we have had our spats. But when the chips are down, you can count on France to be on our side, more or less, and to supply some great wine if it is needed.

That is certainly one point of view. It is also (except for the wine) nonsense, as John J. Miller and Mark Molesky argue in "Our Oldest Enemy." More than a few readers are likely to agree. Before 9/11, 77% of Americans held a favorable opinion of France. By March 2003, only 34% did.

That's quite a shift, and little wonder. In the weeks leading up to the Iraq war, when French support might have helped win the approval of the United Nations, the French poured contempt on the U.S. for its "unilateralism." In those crucial days Dominique de Villepin, the French foreign minister, scolded the U.S. with particular condescension, declaring that "nothing justifies envisaging military action." The chips were down, and France was most assuredly not on our side.

But the problem started long ago, note Messrs. Miller and Molesky. They begin their own chronicle with the Revolutionary War. True, they say, France helped the rebellious states. But the French entered the war reluctantly, they observe, and were motivated above all by a desire to harm the interests of their British rival.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: eurotrash; frenchbetrayal

1 posted on 10/13/2004 9:55:50 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
france deserves what france gets......
2 posted on 10/13/2004 9:59:38 PM PDT by marmar (Faith is a beautiful thing.....)
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To: quidnunc

I will definitely read this 1st thing in the morning.

I'm currently reading David McCullough's biography of John Adams. I'm intrigued by the French underhandedness in Adams' time. Reading many of his letters, they could just as well have been written today.


3 posted on 10/13/2004 10:01:08 PM PDT by Timeout (Proud, card-carrying member of JAMMIE NATION)
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To: quidnunc

They were giving us grief when our troops were marching into Paris after liberating them from the Nazis. Ike finally had to tell our folks just to ignore them.


4 posted on 10/13/2004 10:04:54 PM PDT by GB
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To: GB; quidnunc
Bush was so right when he spoke of "old Europe"

LIFE Magazine: Americans Are Losing the Victory in Europe,January 7, 1946

5 posted on 10/13/2004 10:27:07 PM PDT by Susannah (What's less united than the USA during war? > the UN !)
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To: quidnunc

"But when the chips are down, you can count on France to be on our side, more or less"

Completely moronic. The chips WERE down and France wasn't "on our side". In fact, they organized against us as a non-belligerent ally of our enemy.


6 posted on 10/13/2004 10:31:09 PM PDT by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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To: quidnunc

Terrible wine, terrible cheese, nasty food, stinky people, poor soil, bad location in general.


7 posted on 10/13/2004 10:34:23 PM PDT by Porterville (NEED SOME WOOD?)
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To: quidnunc
It isn't funny anymore. Chirac is attempting to form a geopolitical alliance against U.S. intersts.

WITH CHINA.

I'm not sure the man is entirely sane.

8 posted on 10/13/2004 10:41:55 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

I'm entirely sure the man is totally insane.


9 posted on 10/14/2004 1:42:30 AM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: quidnunc
Later the authors write: "The Second World War was as much the product of French intransigence and vengefulness as it was the result of Hitler's lust for domination." Such a statement goes much too far.

It's true: partially blaming France for Hitler's invasion is similar to partially blaming the U.S. for 9/11.

Seems like a pretty fair review of an interesting book. Although I didn't get anything from the review to imply that there's much more about France's behavior that folks don't commonly know already, though.

10 posted on 10/14/2004 2:11:15 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: quidnunc

The piss pot French can talk a long walk off a short pier....


11 posted on 10/14/2004 4:34:19 AM PDT by Stateline
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To: quidnunc

The piss pot French can take a long walk off a short pier....


12 posted on 10/14/2004 4:37:51 AM PDT by Stateline
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