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PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE III (live thread)
10.13.04 | Joe, and the rest of FR.

Posted on 10/13/2004 5:19:44 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf

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To: marta R

Ecumenical bullhockey from the kerry korner!


5,121 posted on 10/13/2004 7:19:56 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: MojoWire

you got that right! and it's name is Taaahraaazzza!!!


5,122 posted on 10/13/2004 7:19:56 PM PDT by barbcsr
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To: Froggie

Kerry- more loving our neighbor to do- a chance to bring up the race card. I'm surprised he didn't say we should roll over for terrism because of it.


5,123 posted on 10/13/2004 7:19:57 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom
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To: lawgirl
here comes lurch- what a fake.

Kerry's quoting scripture! He voted against the ban on partial birth abortion and HE QUOTING SCRIPTURE for us! Ugh!!

5,124 posted on 10/13/2004 7:19:57 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Joe Hadenuf

HE MISQUOTED THE GREATEST COMMANDMENT!!!!


5,125 posted on 10/13/2004 7:19:58 PM PDT by GraceofGod
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To: VRWCer

So Kerry is for religion for those who want it and was religious at one time? No?

Is that what he was saying?


5,126 posted on 10/13/2004 7:19:58 PM PDT by weegee (John Kerry: "I'm Oprah! EVERYONE gets a tax hike!")
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To: Howlin

Who is sweating?


5,127 posted on 10/13/2004 7:19:59 PM PDT by jrcats (Florida-The Hurricane State & now the baby frog state.)
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To: Howlin

"Are you kidding??? Honest to gawd?"

Unless my husband was hearing things... and I doubt that...


5,128 posted on 10/13/2004 7:20:00 PM PDT by marajade
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To: Bushbacker1

Kerry: The Botox Bosox


5,129 posted on 10/13/2004 7:20:01 PM PDT by johnb838 (MSPO: Main Stream Propaganda Organ)
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To: LittleSpotBlog

Biased questions, but Bush is doing well with them. People can see the bias, particularly since the moderator is from the tainted CBS.


5,130 posted on 10/13/2004 7:20:01 PM PDT by meyer (Need some wood?)
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To: Eva

Watch your back, George!


5,131 posted on 10/13/2004 7:20:01 PM PDT by papasmurf
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To: marta R

Sure he has faith...er, well, he has some sort of pseudo-spirituality. He said so in American Windsurfer magazine:

Spirituality is a fundamental for us. I mean, it's the-it is the overpowering, driving foundation of most of the struggles that we go through here on earth, in my judgement. I am a believer in the Supreme Being, in God. I believe, without any question in this force that is so much larger and more powerful than anything human beings can conceivably define.

I think the more we learn about the universe, the more we learn about black holes and the expansion of the universe and the more we learn what we don't know about: our beginnings and-not just of us, but the universe itself, the more I find that people believe in this supreme being. I'm a Catholic and I practice but at the same time I have an open-mindedness to many other expressions of spirituality that come through different religions. I'm very respectful and am interested-I find it intriguing.

I went to Jerusalem a number of years ago on an official journey to Israel and I was absolutely fascinated by the 32 or so different branches of Catholicism that were there. That's before you even get to the conflict between Arabs and Jews. I have spent a lot of time since then trying to understand these fundamental differences between religions in order to really better understand the politics that grow out of them. So much of the conflict on the face of this planet is rooted in religions and the belief systems they give rise to. The fundamentalism of one entity or another.

So I really wanted to try to learn more. I've spent some time reading and thinking about it and trying to study it and I've arrived at not so much a sense of the differences but a sense of the similarities in so many ways; the value system roots and the linkages between the Torah, the Koran and the Bible and the fundamental story that runs through all of this, that connects us-and really connects all of us.

And so I've also always been fascinated by the Transcendentalists and the Pantheists and others who found these great connections just in nature, in trees, the ponds, the ripples of the wind on the pond, the great feast of nature itself. I think it's all an expression that grows out of this profound respect people have for those forces that human beings struggle to define and to explain. It's all a matter of spirituality.

I find that even - even atheists and agnostics wind up with some kind of spirituality, maybe begrudgingly acknowledging it here and there, but it's there. I think it's really intriguing. For instance, thinking about China, the people and their policy-how do we respond to their view of us? And how do they arrive at that view of us and of the world and of life choices? I think we have to think about those things in the context of the spiritual to completely understand where they are coming from. So here are a people who, you know, by and large, have a nation that has no theory of creationism. Well, that has to effect how you approach things. And until we think through how that might effect how you approach things, it's hard to figure out where you could find a meeting of the minds when approaching certain kinds of issues.

So, the exploration of all these things I find intriguing. Notwithstanding our separation between church and state, it is an essential ingredient of trying to piece together an approach to some of the great vexing questions we have internationally.


5,132 posted on 10/13/2004 7:20:02 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (I think John Kerry should be President.........of the European Union.)
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To: unspun

WHat is with Kerry and all his Catholic, altar boy, stuff tonight? Quoting the Bible? I'd love it if he actually meant it in his heart.


5,133 posted on 10/13/2004 7:20:04 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (lib­·er·al - noun: ¹A person who is so open-minded that their brains have fallen out)
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To: yall
Bush mentioned Principles. Big difference between these two.
Bush has 'em, Kerry lies about them.

Thumbs down to Kerry.


5,134 posted on 10/13/2004 7:20:05 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Husker8877

Huh! How about that! Wasn't even trying! LOL


5,135 posted on 10/13/2004 7:20:06 PM PDT by Ladysmith ("I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever.")
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To: ApesForEvolution

Polarizer Decries Polarization BTTT

I despise Communists like the freaking plague...


5,136 posted on 10/13/2004 7:20:08 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: alancarp

Go Yankees!


5,137 posted on 10/13/2004 7:20:08 PM PDT by rllngrk33 (The fourth estate in this country has become a fifth column.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

As soon as he said that I thought of the Twin Towers and people jumping to escape the heat...


5,138 posted on 10/13/2004 7:20:08 PM PDT by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: ican'tbelieveit

Is this OVER yet....

30 mins too long..


5,139 posted on 10/13/2004 7:20:09 PM PDT by JesseJane (~On November 2, keep in mind what mattered most on 9-11.~)
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To: Cherry Cola

Now Bob is attacking Bush's faith with a loaded question.

Everyone of Bob's question's have been liberally loaded.

Now HE IS CLAIMING THAT THE NATION IS DIVIDED....implying that Bush has not held the nation together.

He is sooooo shameless.


5,140 posted on 10/13/2004 7:20:10 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud (all)
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