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Restrain Runaway Spending with a Federal Taxpayers' Bill of Rights
The Heritage Foundation ^ | August 27, 2004 | Brian M. Riedl

Posted on 10/13/2004 2:27:15 PM PDT by Ed Current

Federal spending has leaped 25 percent since 2001, exceeding $20,000 per household (See Chart 1). Frustrated taxpayers are seeking ways to protect their family budgets from the federal budget. These taxpayers should look to Colorado.

In 1992, Colorado citizens revolted against their free-spending lawmakers by petitioning for a referendum to limit the growth of state government to the inflation rate plus the population growth rate. Voters quickly approved the Taxpayers' Bill of Rights (TABOR), ushering in a new era of fiscal responsibility and economic growth. Over the next decade, spending was reined in, taxes plummeted, and the Colorado economy became the envy of the nation.

Just as Congress followed the states' lead on welfare reform in the 1990s, it should follow the states' lead on spending limits. A federal Taxpayers' Bill of Rights would succeed where other budget reforms have failed. It would protect taxpayers' paychecks by forcing lawmakers to live under constraints--just like families, businesses, and state and local governments do. This paper explains how such a policy could work.

The Failure of Other Options

During the past decade, reforming the budget process has been an exercise in futility. Lawmakers who focus obsessively on a single $100,000 pork project pay scant attention to the overall budgetary framework used to allocate $2.3 trillion in federal spending. When budget process reform is finally debated, lawmakers focus more on protecting their committees' turfs than on fixing the budget problems. The rare (and overly arcane) reforms that are enacted are first watered down to irrelevance and then riddled with loopholes. All four reforms of the budget process that have been tried in the past decade have failed.

Pay-As-You-Go (PAYGO) Rules and Discretionary Spending Caps. PAYGO rules, in place from 1990 through 2002, mandated that any new law cutting taxes or expanding entitlements be balanced by equal tax increases or entitlement cuts. It was an abysmal failure: Mandatory spending actually grew faster after PAYGO was enacted. It failed because it limited only the creation of new entitlements, while allowing current programs--such as Social Security Medicare, Medicaid, and farm subsidies--to expand rapidly. Additionally, PAYGO placed barriers on tax relief, and Congress easily dismissed PAYGO rules when they became inconvenient.

Discretionary spending caps, written every three to five years, were more successful. Yet, even caps were too easily disregarded by lawmakers, who could exempt any program simply by labeling it an "emergency." In the House of Representatives, caps could be waived with a simple majority vote. Recently, Members of the House strongly rejected a measure that would have restored discretionary spending caps--effectively refusing to accept any statutory limit on their ability to spend tax dollars.

The Family Budget Protection Act. Proposed by several conservatives and moderates in the House, the Family Budget Protection Act (FBPA) contained over one dozen important procedural reforms.1 These included converting the concurrent budget resolution into a joint budget resolution (which would have the force of law), entitlement caps, point-of-order reform, enhanced rescission, and rules making it easier to save money in appropriations bills. Instead of a bias toward bigger government and higher taxes, the budget process would finally protect taxpayers. Regrettably, these reforms were overwhelmingly defeated in the House.

The FBPA was rejected, in part, because it was too arcane to be understood outside the Beltway. Lawmakers are typically interested in protecting their committees' turf and retaining their ability to distribute government benefits. Only a popular outcry from the voters back home will persuade most lawmakers to overcome their own bias and vote for fiscal responsibility. Because the FBPA was too complex to be understood by most voters, there was no popular push for it, and lawmakers were free to reject it without serious political consequences.

Balanced Budget Amendment. Unlike the FBPA, the balanced budget amendment is widely understood by the American people (which is why it receives broader support from lawmakers, despite being a more radical reform). The movement for a balanced budget amendment has stalled as well, not only because the budget reached surplus between 1998 and 2001, but also because constitutional amendments are extremely difficult to enact.

Additionally, a balanced budget amendment focuses on the wrong issue. The budget deficit is merely a symptom; runaway spending is the disease. The United States could balance the budget tomorrow by raising taxes to levels that would devastate families, businesses, and the economy. Instead of seeing deficit reduction as end in itself, lawmakers should focus on the runaway spending that creates the deficits and high taxes in the first place.

Trust Lawmakers to Cut Spending. Lawmakers continue to work within a budget framework designed 30 years ago to maximize federal spending. Many Members of Congress claim that they can cut spending on their own and do not need any budget process reforms or spending limits to enforce what they plan to do anyway. This viewpoint represents the triumph of hope over experience. These lawmakers are absolutely correct that people, not process, are ultimately to blame for runaway spending. However, persistent runaway spending provides ample evidence that lawmakers are unable to control spending on their own without outside constraints.

According to public choice theory, lawmakers have incentives to continually expand government. This is exactly what is happening. The current federal budget process requires no priority setting, no trade offs, and no difficult decisions. Families operate under external budget constraints, as does virtually every state government. It is naïve and ahistorical to believe that Members of Congress will resist the budget process pro-spending bias and reduce spending on their own.

Five Lessons

Five lessons can be drawn from these failures:

  1. Members of Congress will not make difficult spending trade-offs unless required by law.
  2. Although a constitutional amendment would be the most enforceable means of reform, it is too difficult to enact.
  3. A successful proposal for reforming the budget process must be understood and strongly supported by voters in order to overcome the turf-protection and pro-spending bias in Congress.
  4. Spending constraints should put all spending on the table--mandatory and discretionary, current and proposed. All programs should have to compete with each other for the limited federal funds.
  5. Members of Congress will exploit every possible weakness in spending constraints.

The Promise of a Taxpayers' Bill of Rights

A Taxpayers' Bill of Rights presents a simple, yet effective way to curb runaway spending. TABOR would limit the growth of federal spending to the inflation rate plus population growth. Rather than growing 6.4 percent annually (the average during the past five years), federal spending would typically increase by approximately 3.3 percent annually. Although this slower growth rate may not seem like a significant change, it would save taxpayers more than $4 trillion over the next 10 years (See Chart 2).

Limiting annual federal spending growth to approximately 3.3 percent is not too much to ask of Congress, especially considering that the federal budget has expanded by 30 percent in the past five years and contains hundreds of billions of dollars worth of wasteful and obsolete programs. The current $2.3 trillion federal budget would still be large enough to fund all current programs, and these programs could continue growing at the inflation rate plus the population growth rate. Programs that expand at faster rates would need to be offset by reductions in the growth rates of other programs.

Six Principles of a Federal TABOR

A federal Taxpayers' Bill of Rights should follow six basic principles:

Principle 1: A TABOR Should Restrict Spending Growth, Not Revenues. High tax rates devastate economies. Yet a law simply requiring low tax revenues without any spending controls is not sustainable because unrestrained spending would likely create unallowably large budget deficits until taxes would need to be raised. The simple truth is that federal spending determines the required level of taxes. Therefore, a law limiting federal spending is the most effective way to guarantee long-term tax relief.

Furthermore, lawmakers cannot exercise much control over tax revenues. Economic trends create short-run revenue fluctuations that make it nearly impossible to target a specified revenue level. A TABOR would be more effective by focusing on spending, which lawmakers can directly control.

TABOR spending restrictions can easily avoid two predictable problems: First, in order to prevent forecasting games, the TABOR inflation and population growth allowances should be a rolling average of the previous three years' rates. Second, TABOR should apply to outlays (actual expenditures) rather than budget authority (the credit limit Congress provides to an agency to spend down). Over the past few years, Congress has manipulated budget authority amounts to the point that they have become meaningless. Outlays are what matter because they are actual expenditures of taxpayer money.

Principle 2: TABOR Spending Limits Should Be Enforced by a Two-thirds Supermajority and by Sequestration. TABOR spending limits would be enforced during the budget resolution vote, as well as the vote on any discretionary appropriations bill or entitlement reform that would put total spending above the TABOR cap. (A projection of total mandatory outlays would need to be combined with the discretionary spending bills to arrive at the spending total.) Legislation violating TABOR would require a two-thirds supermajority.2

The two-thirds supermajority requirement recognizes that there will be rare emergencies (e.g., war) when Congress may need to spend more than TABOR allows. Setting the bar at two-thirds is low enough to clear during a national emergency or war, but high enough to prevent abuse. This policy would require Rules Committee reforms (or at least cooperation from the Rules Committee) to prevent the altering of this two-thirds requirement during key votes.3

If Congress exceeds TABOR spending without getting the two-thirds vote necessary to enact the spending override (for example, entitlement programs that spend more than projected), Congress could come back and cut spending elsewhere to remain in line with TABOR's limits. Otherwise, the Office of Management and Budget would sequester funds using preset sequestration formulas, which were used under discretionary spending caps and PAYGO.4

Principle 3: Congress Should Be Required to Budget for Emergencies. No spending restraint is legislatively foolproof, so there must remain a political stigma attached to bypassing the spending limits. However, if two-thirds of Congress had to override TABOR every time there was a small emergency somewhere in America, these overrides would become routine and less controversial. Requiring Congress to reserve room in the budget for the predictable emergencies would keep all but the most catastrophic emergencies from requiring TABOR overrides.

Principle 4: States Should Be Protected from New Unfunded Mandates. In a budget-cutting environment, lawmakers may be tempted to find savings by passing new unfunded mandates onto states. This is counter to TABOR's goal of reducing the cost of government. If Congress passes a new unfunded mandate, the TABOR cap should be reduced by the amount of federal money saved, as determined by the Congressional Budget Office.

Principle 5: Budget Surpluses Should Be Split Between Tax Rebates and Debt Reduction . The 1998-2001 budget surpluses induced a massive spending spree because these surpluses were portrayed as "free money" sitting in a pile waiting to be used. If TABOR successfully restrains spending and creates budget surpluses, lawmakers will surely be tempted to override TABOR and spend more on popular programs.

What if budget surpluses were automatically split between tax rebates and debt relief? Instead of spending "free money," lawmakers would be cutting the tax rebates to taxpayers as well as raiding a debt relief fund designed to reduce the debt burden passed onto future generations.5

Principle 6: TABOR Should Be a Statute, Not a Constitutional Amendment. While Colorado's TABOR is an amendment (and therefore well enforced), attempting to amend the U.S. Constitution would probably be a futile quest, which leaves reform by statute as the best option.

What About Medicare and Social Security?

The most predictable objection to a Taxpayers' Bill of Rights is that the exploding costs of Medicare and Social Security will make restraining federal spending nearly impossible. These programs are projected to grow 6 percent annually, which would seem to bar lawmakers from capping total federal spending at an annual growth rate of about 3.3 percent.

However, this is exactly why the nation needs a TABOR law. If Social Security and Medicare are allowed to grow at the current rate, they will bankrupt the federal budget. Within a few decades, taxes will have to increase by the current equivalent of $10,000 per household just to pay for Social Security and Medicare--unless these programs are reformed.

Furthermore, excluding Social Security and Medicare from TABOR would deny the fundamental reality that budgets are about setting priorities and making trade-offs. These programs do not exist in a vacuum and cannot be considered separately from the rest of the federal budget. If lawmakers choose to let these programs grow at their projected rates, they will be forced to either eliminate every other federal program or raise taxes to economically devastating levels. Exempting these programs from TABOR will not avoid this mathematical reality. It will merely delay the painful but inevitable trade-offs.

This does not mean that lawmakers would immediately have to reform Social Security and Medicare before the nation has developed a consensus on these issues. These programs are currently growing approximately $20 billion per year faster than they would if they grew at a 3.3 percent rate that would be consistent with a typical TABOR allowance. Over the next few years, Congress could easily offset the $20 billion increases by eliminating the hundreds of billions of dollars of wasteful and obsolete spending in the federal budget.6 Those offsets would buy Congress at least five years to reform Social Security and Medicare before their costs begin to overwhelm TABOR spending levels.

Conclusion

The current federal spending spree is unsustainable; yet, Congress has rejected recent attempts to bring sanity to the budget process and encourage fiscal responsibility. A federal Taxpayers' Bill of Rights provides a simple, effective, proven model for spending reform. A TABOR would force lawmakers to live under spending restraints in the same manner that families, businesses, and state and local governments do. It would force lawmakers to set priorities, make trade-offs, and reduce wasteful spending. Colorado has proved that TABOR can restrain spending, reduce taxes, and facilitate economic growth. More than ever, a Taxpayers' Bill of Rights is needed to protect the family budget from the federal budget.

Brian M. Riedl is Grover M. Hermann Fellow in Federal Budgetary Affairs in the Thomas A. Roe Institute for Economic Policy Studies at The Heritage Foundation.


1. H.R. 3800. For a summary of the bill, see Brian M. Riedl, "Better Budget Reform: A Guide to the Family Budget Protection Act," Heritage Foundation Backgrounder No. 1758, May 17, 2004, at www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/BG1758.cfm .

2. Colorado requires a voter referendum to exceed the spending limits, which is more effective but less feasible at a federal level.

3. Of course, a congressional majority could circumvent TABOR by simply writing a new law altering TABOR and adjusting the cap. (This was done with discretionary caps and PAYGO.) In the absence of a constitutional amendment, such chicanery cannot be completely prevented. One of the most feasible ways to prevent such games is through political pressure to respect TABOR caps and restrict overrule votes to catastrophic emergencies.

4. Given that PAYGO exempted the vast majority of mandatory spending from sequestration, Congress should revisit sequestration formulas in order to guarantee sufficient room for these required spending cuts,

5. Lawmakers would not have to wait until the end of the year to cut taxes. They could reduce taxes any time in order to prevent a budget surplus from occurring in the first place.

6. For example, the federal government cannot account for $24.5 billion spent in 2003. This and other examples of government waste are detailed in Brian M. Riedl, "How to Get Federal Spending Under Control," Heritage Foundation Backgrounder No. 1733, March 10, 2004, at www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/bg1733.cfm.


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Amazing as it may sound, the ostensibly small-government GOP seems totally oblivious to the fact that all this spending puts its future economic agenda in jeopardy.

1 posted on 10/13/2004 2:27:16 PM PDT by Ed Current
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To: Ed Current
Umm.. We have a TBOR already, it's called a vote.
When EVERYONE demands these knuckleheads we hire to run this country stop all waste then it will stop.

Realistically though, as long as people see they can "entitle" themselves to what they did not earn then tax reform is a dead horse.
2 posted on 10/13/2004 2:33:30 PM PDT by Tweaker
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Coburn promotes faith and science

In 1999, Coburn, a physician and then an Oklahoma U.S. representative, authored a resolution in Congress stating that brain wave activity is present in a fetus 41 days after conception and a heartbeat is detectable after 24 days.

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The resolution never came up for a vote, but Coburn said if he's elected to the U.S. Senate this year, he'll try again.

3 posted on 10/13/2004 2:35:05 PM PDT by Ed Current
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To: Tweaker

When EVERYONE demands these knuckleheads we hire to run this country stop all waste then it will stop.

1/2 of EVERYONE would have an enormous impact and would be a major improvement over the present 1/2 of 1%

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury"— leading ultimately to financial collapse."

4 posted on 10/13/2004 2:39:05 PM PDT by Ed Current
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To: Ed Current; Tweaker
Here's the complete quote:

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: "From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage." -- Alexander Fraser Tytler (later Lord Alexander Fraser Woodhouslee), in "The Decline and Fall of the Athenian Republic," published 1776

5 posted on 10/13/2004 2:46:51 PM PDT by SpyGuy (Liberalism is slow societal suicide.)
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To: Ed Current

Where's Gingrich when you need him. Somebody needs to package this idea and go with it. And vote vote vote.


6 posted on 10/13/2004 2:47:04 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/welfare.htm)
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To: SpyGuy
 

From apathy to dependence CURRENT POSITION OF USA From dependence back into bondage.

7 posted on 10/13/2004 2:52:25 PM PDT by Ed Current
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To: SpyGuy
""A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government....

That is why our founding fathers did not, I repeat, did not set up a "democracy" as the form of government in the United States.

It is a "republican" form of government.

It is the big lie of the socialist/communist that have convince most citizens that the US is a "democracy.'

The founding fathers abhored democracy.

Now to the issue of a Federal Taxpayer's Bill of Rights.

We already have a Bill of Rights that is disparaged and neglected with impunity with the tacit approval of a great majority of citizens.

Amendment IV is denied and disparaged with the Patriot Act and the TSA.

Amendment V is denied and disparaged with every federal regulation such a minimum wage laws and ADA laws.

Amendment IX is denied and disparaged with every federal law prohibiting a citizens ingestation of the chemical of their choice.

Amendment II is denied and disparaged with every federal law prohibiting the ownership of or possession of certain "arms."

Amendment I is denied and disparage with federal laws such as the CFR.

Repeal Amendment XVI then we will be making real progress to destroy the federal leviathan's fuel - income tax.

8 posted on 10/13/2004 3:27:18 PM PDT by tahiti
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To: Ed Current

(bump to top)


9 posted on 10/13/2004 10:56:44 PM PDT by Lexinom ("A person's a person no matter how small" - from Dr. Seuss' Horton Hears a Who)
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