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It's okay with me if they let them go [wink wink]. Maybe they can fly . . . |
Posted on 10/13/2004 6:57:59 AM PDT by dead
A SAUDI militant accused of financing the September 11 hijackings is among a group of al-Qaeda suspects being held in secret by the CIA, it emerged yesterday. Mustafa al-Hawsawi is said to have told agents how al-Qaeda funds its operations.
Human rights campaigners named the 36-year-old computer expert as one of 11 “ghost prisoners” held at secret detention centres around the world. President Bush said that he has not been told where these suspects are. Human Rights Watch, which named the 11, said that the Red Cross had not been allowed to see them and their families had not been told that they were alive. Some have been held for more than three years.
The US-based campaign group claimed that some had been tortured into giving evidence used by the White House in the run-up to the war in Iraq to make the case that Saddam Hussein had links with al-Qaeda. But the group claimed that the CIA had now admitted that some detainees lied under pressure. The CIA and the Pentagon refused to comment.
Reed Brody, special counsel with Human Rights Watch, said that by refusing to admit the detentions, the US had violated international law and the Geneva Convention. “The US demeans itself when it adopts the philosophy that the ends justify the means in the fight against terror,” he said.
These 11 are said to include some of Osama bin Laden’s most trusted lieutenants, and al-Hawsawi allegedly knows the names of militants funded by al-Qaeda.
He was reportedly arrested in Pakistan in March last year and sent to a secret interrogation camp in Afghanistan.
Rather than claim an intelligence coup, the CIA has kept “ghost prisoners” secret but claims that their evidence has helped to foil terrorist attacks, including some in Britain.
Al-Hawsawi was said to have been arrested with Khalid Sheikh Mohammad, alleged mastermind of the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon. Al-Hawsawi is also said to have given details of British militants recruited as would-be suicide bombers, whom he helped to finance.
They included Zacarias Moussaoui, the South Bank University student in London who is awaiting trial in the US for his alleged role in September 11. Another is said to be Ibn al-Shaikh al-Libi, who ran al-Qaeda’s biggest training camp in Afghanistan. Foreign recruits were sent for weapons and explosives training at the Khalden camp.
Al-Libi was reportedly seized in December 2001 while fleeing the fighting in the Tora Bora mountains, and is among the handful who knew where bin Laden fled to as US-led forces closed in on the al- Qaeda leader’s hideout.
Al-Qaeda’s operational commander, Abu Zubayda, a Palestinian arrested in Pakistan in March 2002, is also said to be a detainee. He was said to be a possible successor to bin Laden and was the architect of attacks after September 11.
GENEVA RULES
Article 71: Prisoners of war shall be allowed to send and receive letters and cards
Article 72: Prisoners shall be allowed to receive parcels of foodstuffs, clothing, medical supplies and religious, educational or recreational items including books, musical instruments and sports outfits
Article 126 The Red Cross shall have permission to visit all places where prisoners are held. They shall be able to interview the prisoners . . . . Visits may not be prohibited except for reasons of imperative military necessity
Russian curse dittos!!
Since 9/11, the 3000 victims of these Koranimals will never get to see their families again either.
Not much of a secret.
Where is the Kleenex for these do gooding cry babies. They would be the first to scream if they were caught in a terrost trap and blame the President.
Exactly, the Geneva Convention doesn't apply to terrorists and non-state actors.
Under the Geneva Convention they are technically spies and we can hang them whenever we want without trial.
If we feel like keeping them around for a while on our terms, not only are we entitled to do so but they should be grateful.
Isn't it curious that Dan and Times both wrote an article in support of terrorists?
To be "shot while escaping" as soon as the interrogations are concluded?
Or the hundreds of thousands of men, women, children and babies that Saddamn slaughtered.
"Article 71: Prisoners of war shall be allowed to send and receive letters and cards."
That's if you are a prisoner of war with a represented country. What country are these prisoners from and is that country at war with us.
These "captives" should be classified as spies and as such, interrogated and shot.
I too think we ought to let these guys go.
And while they are running away we should shoot them in the back, just as the did the children in Beslan.
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I'd like to think they used so much sodium amitol to get secrets they fried their brains.
I hope they aren't in 'our' custody. 'Our' legal system and methods are far too humane & civilized. Its best to leave this to the Afghanis, Russians & Turks.
Loose lips sink ships, BLAST IT GUYS STOP POSTING THIS KIND OF INFORMATION! I ASK THAT THE MODERATOR PULL THIS THREAD ON GROUNDS OF NATIONAL SECURITY!!!!!!
Exactly.
And al-Qaeda is not a 'nation' nor do they represent a 'nation'. They are no different than pirates on the high seas. A comparable maritime law should apply to them---but the UN is too busy counting the cash from Saddam to bother with outlawing terrorism and terrorists.
I believe that they are required to have a canteen available to buy sundrey items like pepsi and shaving cream.
The GC was brought about because the majority of soldiers were draftees! They were just caught in the whirl wind or war.
After reading the sob story here, I'm having a real hard time to get my "give a Sh&t" meter to move on these poor misunderstood freedom fighters plight.
Oh, I'm sorry, that didn't sound real sincere did it, I hope I didn't upset any of the human rights people
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