Posted on 10/13/2004 12:54:03 AM PDT by politicket
Edited on 10/13/2004 1:07:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Excerpt:
Mystery Surrounds Kerry's Navy Discharge
BY THOMAS LIPSCOMB - Special to the Sun
October 13, 2004
URL: http://www.nysun.com/article/3107
An official Navy document on Senator Kerry's campaign Web site listed as Mr. Kerry's "Honorable Discharge from the Reserves" opens a door on a well kept secret about his military service.
The document is a form cover letter in the name of the Carter administration's secretary of the Navy, W. Graham Claytor. It describes Mr. Kerry's discharge as being subsequent to the review of "a board of officers." This in it self is unusual. There is nothing about an ordinary honorable discharge action in the Navy that requires a review by a board of officers.
According to the secretary of the Navy's document, the "authority of reference" this board was using in considering Mr. Kerry's record was "Title 10, U.S. Code Section 1162 and 1163. "This section refers to the grounds for involuntary separation from the service. What was being reviewed, then, was Mr. Kerry's involuntary separation from the service. And it couldn't have been an honorable discharge, or there would have been no point in any review at all. The review was likely held to improve Mr. Kerry's status of discharge from a less than honorable discharge to an honorable discharge.
A Kerry campaign spokesman, David Wade, was asked whether Mr. Kerry had ever been a victim of an attempt to deny him an honorable discharge. There has been no response to that inquiry.
The document is dated February 16, 1978. But Mr. Kerry's military commitment began with his six-year enlistment contract with the Navy on February 18, 1966. His commitment should have terminated in 1972. It is highly unlikely that either the man who at that time was a Vietnam Veterans Against the War leader, John Kerry, requested or the Navy accepted an additional six year reserve commitment. And the Claytor document indicates proceedings to reverse a less than honorable discharge that took place sometime prior to February 1978.
The most routine time for Mr. Kerry's discharge would have been at the end of his six-year obligation, in 1972. But how was it most likely to have come about?
bump to the top!!!
We can't have Hillary's annointment in 2008 delayed by JF'nK.
A PING and a PRAYER! (oh please, oh please, oh please...)
The President can also revoke a commission for cause.
Just thinking out of the box.
yeah, I read that earlier, but I still am curious why kerry does not display his Honorable Discharge, maybe you could think of a reasonable reason?...rto
bttt!
BTTT.
You can count on it.
yep, I know, but never the less s/he is brand new to freerepublic.com and seemed to be overly agressive defending kerry???...rto
This is a guy who can't answer a question about what kind of water he drinks.
sKerry is absolutely, clearly hiding the DD214 that he was issued after his release from active duty.
That is the document that states whether service was HONORABLE or not.
I just looked at my DD214, from Sept.1981, and put some info from it on post#238 this thread. I encourage some other vets to do the same, especially those whose service was about ten years before mine.
True. It's important to keep in mind that officers don't receive dishonorable or bad conduct discharges as a result of court-martial. Officers receive dismissals, which are equivalent to dishonorable discharges.
An officer can offer to resign in lieu of court-martial and try to bargain his way to an honorable characterization of service, but such an offer is rarely approved.
The provisions cited by the New York Sun govern involuntary administrative separations of reserve officers, and the service characerizations can range from fully honorable to less than honorable. The board of officers hearing the case makes a recommendation both as to sufficiency of grounds for discharge and service characterization.
It may be that Kerry faced a board and was involuntarily separated, but that the board recommended an honorable discharge. If so, that is still significant but much less of a bombshell.
Look again - page 2 shows that he had 3 years of active duty at the time of the second DD214 (page 2) being issued.
wonder why?...rto
Yes I know. I was not speaking of Admin type of discharges. The poster that I replied to talked about Kerry recieveing a dishonorable discharge. Those apply to enlisted folks. Officers are dismissed from service (IOW there is no such thing as a "Dishonorable Discharge" for a comissioned officer.)
Page 2 also lists his medals (complete with the infamous incorrect devices wasarded).
But what about the attachment noted after the Purple Heart?
Is that simply the documentation of his wounds that everyone already has seen and discussed in great detail already?
And not surprised that the Lamestream media is ignoring it and protecting Kerry!
Big trouble ahead for this nation.
The "old commie media" is the most ruthless and destructive institution in the country.
And, they are still influential enough to win this election for the commie/socialist, pompous, and pretentious Kerry.
An officer can offer to resign in lieu of court-martial and try to bargain his way to an honorable characterization of service, but such an offer is rarely approved. Really? I did not know this. Interesting.
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