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Allah or Jesus? by Rick Mathews

No matter what the Islamic say, we don't worship the same God.

Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for
maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session
there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic,
Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their belief systems.

I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam
gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video.

After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.

When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: "Please,
correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of
Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the
world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims,
they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me
the definition of an infidel?"

There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he
replied, "Non-believers!"

I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of
Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they
can go to Heaven. Is that correct?"

The _expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to
that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie
jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes."

I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John
Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley
ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to Heaven!"

The Imam was speechless.

I continued, "I also have problem with being your friend when you and your
brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask you a
question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in order
to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to
Heaven and He wants you to be with me?"

You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.

Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification'
training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic
Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslim's beliefs.

I think everyone in the US should be required to read this, but with the
liberal justice system, liberal media, and the ACLU, there is no way this
will be widely publicized. Please pass this on to all your email contacts.

This is a true story and the author,
Rick Mathews, is a well known leader in prison ministry.

15 posted on 10/12/2004 10:51:06 AM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Smartass

BTT


17 posted on 10/12/2004 11:17:07 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Just 22 more days until November 2nd.)
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To: Smartass

Thanks for the ping!


18 posted on 10/12/2004 11:54:11 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Smartass

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19 posted on 10/12/2004 11:56:20 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Smartass

What was the name of the imam?


20 posted on 10/12/2004 5:20:41 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Smartass
I'd like any info on the truth of this story..I just wanted to make sure this was from a real source and not a hoax. We've seen this story on Nazi websites. We heard there is no minister named Rick Mathews and this story has been changed to have more of a hate message than the original. But I haven't been able to find the original. One problem I have with it is the definition of jihad, and the idea that most Muslim clergy have declared death for non-believers. Aside from ultra-conservative Wahabis and small sects in the Middle East, we've never been able to verify this.

We are concerned our kids get the most accurate information so they can navigate life in the real world. Understanding is VERY important, especially with Islam, the fastest-growing religion in the world. That's why I was concerned to find out if that story was true. Please pass on anything you know about it's origin. Thank you for your help.
24 posted on 10/30/2004 5:34:31 PM PDT by alaskamoose
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