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Group: al-Qaida Detainees 'Disappeared'
Associated Press ^ | Oct 11th, 2004 | SAM DOLNICK

Posted on 10/11/2004 5:50:33 PM PDT by Artemis Webb

NEW YORK - At least 11 al-Qaida suspects have "disappeared" in U.S. custody, and some may have been tortured, Human Rights Watch said in a report issued Monday.

The prisoners are probably being held outside the United States without access to the Red Cross or any oversight of their treatment, the human rights group said. In some cases, the United States will not even acknowledge the prisoners are in custody.

The report said the prisoners include the alleged architect of the Sept. 11 attacks, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, as well as Abu Zubaydah, who is believed to be a close aide to Osama bin Laden.

In refusing to disclose the prisoners' whereabouts or acknowledge the detentions, Human Rights Watch said, the U.S. government has violated international law, international treaties and the Geneva Convention. The group called on the government to bring all the prisoners "under the protection of the law."

"I think the U.S. demeans itself when it adopts the philosophy that the ends justify the means in the fight against terror," said Reed Brody, special counsel with Human Rights Watch.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: khalidmohammed
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I remember "Dirty Harry" stepping on the thug in the movie by the same name as he screamed, "I got rights!!"

Too Damn Bad.

1 posted on 10/11/2004 5:50:33 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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and some may have been tortured

Yea, I like how they jump to conclusions with NO proof...

2 posted on 10/11/2004 5:51:42 PM PDT by FesterUSMC ("If you don't have the hammer, you are going to be the anvil, and I would rather have the hammer!")
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At least 11 al-Qaida suspects have "disappeared" in U.S. custody, and some may have been tortured

They played N'Sync and Menudo CDs?

3 posted on 10/11/2004 5:51:46 PM PDT by Poohbah (SKYBIRD SKYBIRD DO NOT ANSWER...SKYBIRD SKYBIRD DO NOT ANSWER)
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To: Artemis Webb

I acknowledge that the US has KSM in custody.


4 posted on 10/11/2004 5:52:39 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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US response.

Don't know who you're talking about. Hell, I can't tell one Abu from another Abu. They all look the same to me.

5 posted on 10/11/2004 5:53:11 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Artemis Webb

"I think the U.S. demeans itself when it adopts the philosophy that the ends justify the means in the fight against terror," said Reed Brody, special counsel with Human Rights Watch.


Of course Reed probably thinks that when Islamic fanatics
cut the heads off innocent people, it doesn't demean Islam.


6 posted on 10/11/2004 5:53:12 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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The prisoners are probably being held outside the United States

probably? ummmm

7 posted on 10/11/2004 5:53:26 PM PDT by FesterUSMC ("If you don't have the hammer, you are going to be the anvil, and I would rather have the hammer!")
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Hey Reed Brody: Go to hell. Go see what you geniuses can do about real human rights abuses, like when the people being abused aren't guilty if vicious murder of innocent people.

Human Rights Watch...the United Nations...Amnesty International...all ideas who initial mission has been hijacked and corrupted by "liberals".


8 posted on 10/11/2004 5:53:58 PM PDT by waterman478
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In refusing to disclose the prisoners' whereabouts or acknowledge the detentions, Human Rights Watch said, the U.S. government has violated... Geneva Convention

Sorry to disappoint those Red Cross "bleeding hearts (no pun intended), but the Geneva Convention does not apply to AQ.

9 posted on 10/11/2004 5:54:10 PM PDT by dawn53
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I acknowledge that the US has KSM in custody.

If you are a family member or relative of KSM
please let us know where to send his remains,
when he is released.


10 posted on 10/11/2004 5:54:58 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Torture? They found a Victoria Secrets' sales slip for a half dozen pink panties.


11 posted on 10/11/2004 5:55:13 PM PDT by hershey
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And how many Nazi and Japanese prisoners "disappeared" during WWII. This works for me.


12 posted on 10/11/2004 5:55:15 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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I acknowledge that the US has KSM in custody.

And when they poured that white hot lead up his keister, he sang like Whitney Houston.

13 posted on 10/11/2004 5:55:17 PM PDT by Publius (Bibo et indiscrete vivo.)
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"Human Rights Watch...the United Nations...Amnesty International...all ideas who initial mission has been hijacked and corrupted by "liberals"."

Totally Correct.

14 posted on 10/11/2004 5:55:25 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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"pssst!...hey Buddy...KSM is in France..."


15 posted on 10/11/2004 5:58:42 PM PDT by Khurkris (Proud Scottish/HillBilly - I am grumpy today...I may stay grumpy for a while.)
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I was thinking I read a article which stated that Human Rights Watch was tied in with George Soro's Open Society or what ever it's called.

Does anyone know if that is right?


16 posted on 10/11/2004 5:59:12 PM PDT by federal
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11 al-Qaida suspects have "disappeared" in U.S. custody

That's a great solution to legally detaining them and having to put up with all the PC bull crap that starts up.

17 posted on 10/11/2004 5:59:25 PM PDT by leadpencil1 (Hey Kerry, does this rag smell like chloroform to you?)
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I hope they got run through a garbage shredder.


18 posted on 10/11/2004 6:00:38 PM PDT by T'wit (There is only one form of government -- too much)
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You know after the Afghan campaign, when they were moving the prisoners to Gitmo, it always cheered me up to think that maybe evry 4th transport plane just opened up over the Indian Ocean and dumped the whole load.

Health codes require that, you know, like when the planes dump the frozen blue water from the toilest over land: you just can't be dropping terrorist through people's roofs!

Well, maybe you can, but do it over France!

19 posted on 10/11/2004 6:00:40 PM PDT by Former Dodger ((Go W GO! Finish off the US Rats, then the Muslim ones!))
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At least 11 al-Qaida suspects have "disappeared" in U.S. custody, and some may have been tortured, Human Rights Watch said in a report issued Monday.

Hundreds of thousands are dead in the Sudan...hope HRW is working on that one, too.
20 posted on 10/11/2004 6:00:57 PM PDT by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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