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It seems that I remember Bill Clinton being President during more years of Mr. Reeve's paralysis than President Bush. Why are they not hammering Clinton for not getting him cured?
1 posted on 10/11/2004 2:01:25 PM PDT by no dems
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It seems that I remember Bill Clinton being President during more years of Mr. Reeve's paralysis than President Bush. Why are they not hammering Clinton for not getting him cured?

I was thinking this very thing this morning. Add to that the fact the Pres. Bush has allowed the strains that exist to be used. They can't logically argue that Pres. Bush killed Mr. Reeves.

But they will....

32 posted on 10/11/2004 2:14:57 PM PDT by zlala
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Crocodile tears from the Forehead of Effluvia.


33 posted on 10/11/2004 2:16:23 PM PDT by theDentist (Proud Member of FreeRepublic 's "Pyjama-Hadeen")
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Okay, I'll probably get hammered for this but...so? Christopher Reeves was a wealthy actor who was injured in a sport that requires alot of investment, not your Average Joe. I'm sorry he was hurt and now died. But it hasn't been proven that stem cells would have helped him. And there are many other people without his resources who suffer from diseases that need far more support. Entertainers who suddenly find something to support because it now affects them...is this the true meaning of love thy neighbor? Those average people who give their time and money to causes because they believe in them, not because it might benefit them, are truly heroes.


36 posted on 10/11/2004 2:18:00 PM PDT by unbalanced but fair
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The media is all over this and exploiting it. They use John Kerry and talk about how Kerry wanted to help Reeve and Bush didn't.


37 posted on 10/11/2004 2:19:07 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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I'm telling you, "Kerricide."


41 posted on 10/11/2004 2:25:46 PM PDT by Starrgaizr
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I was in bed listening to the radio last night when they mentioned his death and the first thing that popped into my mind was that the Dims were going to use this to attack Bush.


45 posted on 10/11/2004 2:28:21 PM PDT by dljordan
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Paul Begal Dancing on Chris Reeve's Casket

Only because there are no dead soldiers available today.

47 posted on 10/11/2004 2:30:24 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Always ask yourself, does this pass the Global Test?)
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Hey, the Dem's danced on Wellstone's casket too and look what happened. It's really true when you read that the Dems just don't get it.


48 posted on 10/11/2004 2:30:56 PM PDT by The Hound Passer (Sitting home in protest this Nov is a vote for Kerry and Co.)
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US actor Christopher Reeve, who died of heart failure after a long battle with paralysis, was a thorn in the side of President George W. Bush, seen here 08 October 2004, over his championing of stem cell research(AFP/File/Hector Mata)

Is it just me or whoever wrote this caption was a little bit nasty?

51 posted on 10/11/2004 2:33:56 PM PDT by Isara (We Will Win With W)
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He then went on to say that Christopher Reeve had committed his life to lobbying for stem cell research...

Ummm...not quite Pauly. Reeve committed the last 9 years of his life to whining about stem cell research.

Before his accident in 1995, he didn't give a wet slap about stem cell research. Only when it affected him personally did he take up the banner.

54 posted on 10/11/2004 2:35:23 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Which Star Trek Capt. would you want for President? Picard or Kirk? In wartime, the choice is easy.)
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Paul "the Joker" Begala is just plain creepy...

"Wait'll they get a load of me!"


57 posted on 10/11/2004 2:41:40 PM PDT by Tuco Ramirez (Ideas have consequences.)
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I suspect the Democrats will try to turn Christopher eeve's death into a pep rally just as they turned the late Senator Paul Wellstone's death into a pep rally.


61 posted on 10/11/2004 2:53:10 PM PDT by Lunkhead_01
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He then went on to say that Christopher Reeve had committed his life to lobbying for stem cell research in hopes of finding a cure for his paralysis.

Don Quiote committed his life to slaying windmills.

62 posted on 10/11/2004 2:53:56 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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63 posted on 10/11/2004 2:55:28 PM PDT by JmyBryan
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Kerry is probably going to bring Reeve's death up in this week's debate, so Bush better be ready for it.


64 posted on 10/11/2004 2:55:43 PM PDT by Califelephant (50 million people in Afghanistan and Iraq now have the chance to live in FREEDOM)
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let them do a wellstone all over again.


68 posted on 10/11/2004 3:01:24 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (q)
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I posted this to my BLOG today:

I'm sorry that Mr. Reeve has died. He was a talented, if self indulgent, man. He had a tragic accident and handled himself generally well in the years since. However......

I'm going to commit sacrilege right now. Let me preface my remarks by stating that I have dealt with quadriplegics and paraplegics for over 30 years, both professionally and in my family. I'm not blowing smoke on this.

The consensus of the quads and paras that I have encountered is that Christopher Reeve was not a hero of “the cause.” He didn’t work for the benefit of anyone but Christopher Reeve. He didn’t attend events raising funds for quads and paras who were hurting NOW. He spent his time raising big bucks in his elitists community directed solely at exploring a cure for him. Regardless of the praise heaped on Reeve on the Miami Project web page, he wasn't viewed in the same way by the folks I've known as they view Marc Buoniconti and his dad Nick.

Having said that I will admit that my exposure is from way down in the weeds, one on one with a limited number of folks in a limited number of facilities. I feel, however, that I have come by my opinons on the subject honestly.

My big problem was that Christopher Reeve's primary cause was embryonic stem cell research. This “miracle” research was held out as the only hope for him therefore it was the only thing he wanted research money spent on. In fact when President Bush became the first President to provide Federal funds for stem cell research Reeve immediately launched a vitriolic campaign that there were too many restrictions and not enough money to suit him.

Well, embryonic stem cell research has so far produced no results. All experiments that have provided some encouraging research results have been from adult stem cells. All of the experiments done with embryonic stem cells have had virtually universal catastrophic side affects, mostly run away cancers. Forget the ethics, so far embryonic stem cell research is a dry hole.

And how might a laymen judge this statement? Simple. If embryonic stem cell research offered any promise of results it would be a source of profit for the medical firms doing the research and they would be willing to fund it, the way they are funding adult stem cell research.

Embryonic stem cell research has one distinct difference from adult stem cell research. It requires the destruction of a human being and “harvesting” of the desired cells. So who benefits from this if the actual research is not supporting the medical benefits promised by the promoters? The abortion industry. They have a problem. They aren’t making enough money. They need a new market for their “product” and no one in their right minds in industry will throw money down that rat hole, not even themselves. So they need the government to fund the research for them. Pretty disgusting, isn’t it?

And that brings up the ethical question. I have actually though about this general subject quite a lot. I have a different perspective than most people on the ethics of something like this. It is not my personal connection to someone who might benefit from this research (though I’m convinced he won’t). No, my perspective comes from the fact that I am a multiple transplant recipient. It is only my corneas (3 times) but it still means that I have benefited from someone else’s death. Now the gift that those people gave me was truly a gift, something that they volunteered. I bless them and their generosity. In the case of embryonic stem cell research there is no volunteering. The “resource” that is being “harvested” isn’t asked if they want to die in order to make someone else’s life easier. And some creatures want to make a profit from this.

The analogy that comes to mind when I think of my own circumstance is Frankenstein. I have a totally different perspective on “the monster” than anyone who isn’t a transplant recipient. For adult stem cell research the analogy holds true. For embryonic stem cell research there are two analogies we can draw from: vampires and flesh eating zombies.

I am happy that Mr. Reeve is spared that grotesque fate. I wonder if he had the morals to donate his organs for transplant?


74 posted on 10/11/2004 3:51:06 PM PDT by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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George Reeves was always Superman to me. Then he was shot by hitlery!


75 posted on 10/11/2004 3:53:40 PM PDT by longfellow (You're either with US or from Hollywood! Ultimateamerican.com)
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Is Krathhamer a parapeligic? I've suspected he is for some time... anyway, he is livid about the comments made on the air by the Kerry administration over this subject using Christopher Reeves name -- one comment I caught was : "We've" been studying this for a long time now and there still is no proof this is going to be the solution... (it was at the end of the Britt Hume show today)


76 posted on 10/11/2004 3:57:42 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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Maybe I'm too dense for this, but as I understand it, President G.W.Bush is the ONLY President ever to fund stem cell research. He will not allow the formation of new embryonic stem cells, however. It seems to me the truth is that the medical technology is not there to use adult or embryonic stem cells to cure Christopher's injuries, Mr. Fox's parkinsons disease, or the leukemia that is killing children as we speak. Private funds can be used to research embryonic stem cell harvesting. Do I understand this situation or do I need to go read some more?
77 posted on 10/11/2004 4:21:17 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts (keep your eye on the donut not on the hole)
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