Ditto here. 
My lips are sealed, but my thoughts go on. ; *)
Posted on 10/11/2004 11:11:38 AM PDT by SJackson
Ironically, the most fiscally conservative governor we've had in that period is our current Democratic Gov. Rod Blagojevich who even had the balls to take back previously allocated monies from colleges and others after the fiscal year was half over!
There wasn't a program Thompson, Edgar, or Ryan didn't think should be funded. And don't forget the Republican-directed works projects in Springfield, including the Lincoln library.
Keyes is a solid conservative whose approach is controversial. On a small budget, and without support from the current leader of the party, he's created a lot of publicity. Remember, even supposedly bad publicity is still good. At least he has a head on his shoulders and sticks to convictions. Both Republicans and Democrats could learn something from that.
One final point--for a state that virtually never votes Republican for president, Illinois recently has shifted to a state that is "in play". If Keyes was as bad a liability as is stated, President Bush couldn't be that close to Kerry in this state.
I have disagreed with Dr. Keyes openly on FR, including in posts directly to Jim Robinson when he posted a thread supporting Keyes. I haven't been banned, time-outed, or had any posts pulled, and in fact JimRob posted a respectful response to me. Word your opposition intelligently and respectfully and it will be welcome on FR.
What are you talking about?
He is an egomaniac who only serves to embarrass the Republican Party. The sooner he sinks over the horizon into oblivion, the better.
And if the Keyes campaign was being well run, they would put out a flyer with pictures of Obama and Bin Laden with a slogan "Osama and Obama don't share our values."
Keyes didn't win the nomination.
I try to be intelligently vociferous, not vicious. And I think vocal opposition to Keyes and his sorry excuse for a campaign is a legitimate position for people who would like to see sane and stable Republican candidates get elected, instead of being swept out to sea in the tidal wave of Keyes' obnoxious rants. Keyes' behavior has been so appalling that he's freed up Obama's time to run around the country drumming up money and votes for Kerry/Edwards, while Keyes stays "home" and does further damage to other Republican candidates who are actually electable. Why shouldn't I be opposed to Keyes?
I understand what statement of mine you replied to... It just seems that your intent was mocking me for saying he won the nomination... Am I mistaken that Keyes is currently the Republican Nominee for a Senate seat in Illinois? Am I mistaken in assuming that he obtained that position by some process of nomination by his party?
Does Obama favor reparations? I just do not see why that is a deal breaker for Keyes. The reparations idea Keyes put forth will never pass Congress. It will be irrelevant to his Senate seat. More likely, if any kind of reparations is ever going to become a reality, it will be because the courts decide the issue for us. If you fear reparations, fear the courts.
Who gets to define "sane and stable"? You?
More likely that Keyes has run a poor campaign.
Ditto here. My lips are sealed, but my thoughts go on. ; *)
That all being said, I am disappointed with this run. I do not see why he thought he had a chance in a state as liberal as Illinois. I do not see why he thought it necessary to inflame matters - his mentor, Ronald Reagan, knew much better. Had President Reagan been asked to comment about Cheney's daughter, with a smile and a wink, he would have said something along the lines of "Shouldn't that really be a question for her dad?".
I honestly don't know what Dr. Keyes is going to do after this. I suggest he moves to Australia and teaches American Government there.
Regards, Ivan
I've heard at least one good explanation of why someone was opposed to him. I can understand that. But I'm aware that there is agressive demonization that goes beyond a reasonable dislike of a candidate. To the point that I'm convinced there is a hidden grudge that is hidden behind the illogical claims that "he is doing too much harm to the republicans so lets elect Obama to the Senate to keep him from doing more harm."
It's one think to argue he isn't the best candidate. It's another thing to absolutly trash the man and anyone who supports him when he IS in fact the nominee. I'm not from Illinois, and I don't know all that much about what's going on right now. But I've been watching people is the entertainment industry trash republicans long enough to know "hidden agenda demonizaion" when I see it.
You you you ... thoughtist.
(And mods, please note that was a personal attack against another Freeper, not a slam on Dr. Keyes) ;)
"..Keyes was always going to be Keyes. The Republican party in Illinois knew this and that is exactly why they selected him."
Could you explain this a bit? That is, why did they choose Keyes, as opposed to running a lesser-known, local poliitician, who still would lose but not generate this controversy?
-- Joe
And who holds the greater part of the blame for that? The Illinois GOP themselves. The Illinois GOP only have themselves to blame for allowing Mr. Keyes to carpet-bag into their campaign. They should have kept Jack Ryan on the ballot and defended him against the Democratic smear campaign.
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