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Why the World Hates George W. Bush: The Secular Drive to Marginalize Faith
Breakpoint ^ | 4 Oct 04 | Allan Dobras

Posted on 10/10/2004 6:23:58 PM PDT by xzins

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1 posted on 10/10/2004 6:23:58 PM PDT by xzins
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I submit that post 911 faith has become a central core to many in the United States... because if you did not pray on that day you are inhumane.


2 posted on 10/10/2004 6:28:29 PM PDT by tomnbeverly (The Plan to Win the Peace was subverted by the liberals and this isn't the first time.)
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To: xzins
Amen! Right on target!
3 posted on 10/10/2004 6:29:02 PM PDT by TXnMA
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To: xzins

Reich wrote:

"The underlying battle will be between modern civilization and anti-modernist fanatics; between those who believe in the primacy of the individual and those who believe that human beings owe blind allegiance to a higher authority;"

The left surely doesn't believe in 'the primacy of the individual' as they worship at the altar of the almighty state.


4 posted on 10/10/2004 6:30:55 PM PDT by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: xzins

They hate President Bush because he represents moral standards and character that they refuse to acknowledge as correct.


5 posted on 10/10/2004 6:31:18 PM PDT by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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To: GW and Twins Pawpaw

Excellent point.

The worship at the altar of world socialism.


6 posted on 10/10/2004 6:32:04 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: xzins
This hits at the foundation. Abortion, sodomarriage, leniency for criminals/terrorits, embryocide as a hobby, socialism - these are all symptomatic dividers. The root is the antithesis, the enmity between the Seed of the Woman and the Seed of the Serpent. Sounds trite (especially to the humanist) but never certainly in my life has this antithesis crossed so many national boundaries and become so uniformly manifest amongst so many diverse people.
7 posted on 10/10/2004 6:33:16 PM PDT by Lexinom (America needs Jonathan Edwards, not John Edwards)
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To: xzins

While the premise of this article has merit - namely that the viurlent oppostition to Bush may be a reaction against his faith - the conclusion that homosexuality is the ultimate basis of the argument is pure drivel.

The Islamists hate us not merely because of homosexuality, but because we are NOT devotees of Allah.


8 posted on 10/10/2004 6:35:41 PM PDT by ConservativeConvert
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To: xzins
Tremendous analysis...

Here is a fascinating dissection into the liberal heart of the matter:

Hedonistic secularists realize that the legitimization of homosexuality—particularly legalization of gay marriage—is a dagger into the heart of the Christian faith and the institutions that shelter its values.

9 posted on 10/10/2004 6:37:45 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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Yes, they do. Socialism is legislated slavery. I know several retired colonels from the USA. They are excellent people. Thanks for your service to our Country.

Best regards.


10 posted on 10/10/2004 6:41:48 PM PDT by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: F16Fighter

And those attempting to thrust the daggar seem so over-represented in the lawyerly and judicial classes, don't they?

Makes for fascinating reflection and worrisome times.


11 posted on 10/10/2004 6:41:51 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: xzins

Great read!


12 posted on 10/10/2004 6:42:22 PM PDT by jokemoke
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To: ConservativeConvert

I think post #9 has a better take on the premise of the article.


13 posted on 10/10/2004 6:43:01 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: Homo_homini_lupus

You might enjoy this.


14 posted on 10/10/2004 6:49:00 PM PDT by Buggman (Your failure to be informed does not make me a kook.)
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To: xzins

Well wtitten, thank you. This election will hinge on our efforts but mainly on the amount of time on our knees before God. I watched Henry V (1989) last night, great movie, and was reminded of Gods' great power over insermountable odds.


15 posted on 10/10/2004 6:49:41 PM PDT by twoshed (Duty, honor, country)
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What we are seeing today is the Book of Revelation played out before our eyes...If you are a blood bought child of God, the message from Jesus to you is "LET NOT YOUR HEART BE TROUBLED" and "LOOK UP, YOUR REDEMTION IS NEAR" When President Bush said he was the right man for these times, he knew what he was talking about...and we need him for four more years!


16 posted on 10/10/2004 6:50:27 PM PDT by Woogit
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I am a person of Faith. President Bush Leads he BEST of the BEST that are My brothers and Sisters. They can feel any way they want too. He can even bring me back into srevice and I will go and be proud to serve. God Bless America.


17 posted on 10/10/2004 6:50:43 PM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270 My vote goes for President Bush because he is a great leader and a good man.)
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In its eagerness to promote the teaching of creationism in public schools, encourage school prayer, support anti-sodomy statutes, ban abortions, bar gay marriage, limit the use of stem cells, reduce access to contraceptives, and advance the idea of America as a "Christian nation," the Bush administration has done more to politicize religion than any administration in recent American history...

This is wildly inaccurate. I have never heard Bush advance the notion of America as a Christian nation. I have never heard him promote the teaching of creationism. I have never heard him claim that he wants to ban abortion. Reich is grasping at a straw man. Bush is in fact quite moderate on most things than the hysterical left seems to understand. It could have been much worse for them, in terms of their ideas being shut out.

Robert Reich thinks that people like me are as dangerous as terrorists. Though perverse, that doesn't bother me personally, because I think that secular humanism is more dangerous than terrorism.

18 posted on 10/10/2004 6:50:46 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen; Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe

I tend to agree with you. I'd say that the President has played his deeper religious sentiments pretty close to the vest. I think he actually tends in the direction of conservative anglicanism, even though he is methodist.

That tradition doesn't scream aloud its convictions, although it very strongly holds them.


19 posted on 10/10/2004 6:54:34 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: GW and Twins Pawpaw
The left surely doesn't believe in 'the primacy of the individual' as they worship at the altar of the almighty state.

Actually they believe in both, bizarrely enough. Robert Bork has chronicled this in his book Slouching Towards Gomorrah. The left is simultaneously radically egalitarian and radically individualistic. It's been awhile since I've read it so I may be mischaracterizing it a bit.

They believe in the primacy of the state in the life of the individual; but they also insist that the individual should be completely free to engage in any kind of perversion or culturally suicidal behavior. They demand that the state encourage this and quash dissenting views, which is why secularism is rigidly enforced in the schools.

20 posted on 10/10/2004 6:57:13 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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