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John Kerry's Discharge
American Conservative Union Foundation ^ | October 2004 | Michael Ashbury

Posted on 10/10/2004 10:39:02 AM PDT by freespirited

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To: SkyPilot

"...Kerry was given a dishonorable discharge..."

Kerry may well have had a dishonorable disharge, after he fooled around with some of the prostitutes over there.


41 posted on 10/10/2004 11:34:44 AM PDT by punster
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To: All

Kerry's pathetic stain like this to the Marines on Iwo Jima should blemish his record forever as an AMERICAN CITIZEN.

42 posted on 10/10/2004 11:38:02 AM PDT by Gucho
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To: PatriotCJC
The is only one DD214 on Kerry's military records page.

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/military_records.html

43 posted on 10/10/2004 11:41:20 AM PDT by vox humana
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To: HawaiianGecko
I agree with your assessment of John Kerry. I have felt that way about him for 41 years, since I first met him at Yale. And the anti-CFR ad I will run in a week will attack Kerry for precisely that -- his insufferable arrogance and dishonesty. (Click the second link below.)

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44 posted on 10/10/2004 11:42:28 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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To: punster

He also could have been let go for a variety of 'medical' reasons - drugs, being a looney-tune (he was seemingly unable to follow orders or fit in), or 'depression.'


45 posted on 10/10/2004 11:47:01 AM PDT by Ed_in_NJ (I'm in old skivvies and New Jersey, and I approved this message.)
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To: freespirited

Do NOT forget Ted Kennedy's long term relationship with JFK2. His hands may have very well gotten into Kerry's military records at some point.


46 posted on 10/10/2004 11:48:56 AM PDT by JackSplatt
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To: freespirited

kerry served "honorably" my @ss....damn traitor, that

lying jackass should be in leavenworth right now or worse.


47 posted on 10/10/2004 11:49:17 AM PDT by kingattax (FreeRepublic leads...others follow)
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To: SkyPilot

with ketchup?


48 posted on 10/10/2004 11:51:29 AM PDT by kingattax (FreeRepublic leads...others follow)
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To: freespirited
I heard sKerry's discharge is painful...
49 posted on 10/10/2004 11:51:29 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: freespirited

Why doesn't the Prez demand it in the next and last debate?

How about an ad SPECULATING about Kerry's discharge the weekend before the election? What could the do about it?


50 posted on 10/10/2004 12:06:04 PM PDT by no dems (It's time to get radical before the Democrats steal this election & our country.)
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To: blanknoone
According to the Constitution, the President is "Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States." That is, Commander in Chief, not Commander and Chief.

Gouverneur Morris left out the Air Force, so I guess the President isn't Commander in Chief of that branch.

51 posted on 10/10/2004 12:14:21 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: blanknoone
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52 posted on 10/10/2004 12:15:56 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Just 23 more days until November 2nd.)
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To: no dems

I agree, an ad that just asks questions? Then says, "HOw can we vote for you, John, when you have left so many questions unanswered"?

1. Pres. Bush signed a 180 form and released all his records, Why didn't you, John?

2. Why does your website have so many conflicitng dates surrounding you discharge from the Navy? John, was you 1st discharge less than an honorable one?

3. Why did you lie about you fellow VietNam buddies while they were still in danger?
4. What made you think you were better prepared to negoiate the peace with the enemy in Paris? Did your youth make you "think" you were "special" because you spent 3 months in Nam?


53 posted on 10/10/2004 12:16:25 PM PDT by IceAge
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To: freespirited; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Neil E. Wright; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; Skwidd; ...

I'm waiting for C-BS, or any other BM spin outlet, to do a hit piece on Effin' Kerry...


54 posted on 10/10/2004 12:21:12 PM PDT by Libloather (Effin' Kerry's foreign policy doesn't pass the Global Smell Test...)
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To: counterpunch
The answer here is not to ask the question, but to definitively make the charge. It needs to be stated as a matter of fact that Kerry was less than honorably discharge. Dishonorably discharged even. It should come from friendlies in the media and the GOP.

What are they waiting for? It's Oct 10 already!

I'd rather the charge come from the RNC! ..but it'll probably come from the Swiftees! But When?

55 posted on 10/10/2004 12:25:31 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: counterpunch
The Truth will out. Even if elected, Kerry's going to have to deal with this accusation.

IMHO, if Kerry is not polling within 5 points of the President a week before the election, then his support will collapse to the 40% level. Some Dems will stay home; some will defect to Nader.

56 posted on 10/10/2004 1:07:19 PM PDT by Tallguy (If the Kerry campaign implodes any further, they'll reach the point of "singularity" by election day)
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To: Tallguy
Even if elected, Kerry's going to have to deal with this accusation.

The idea here is to insure that this does not happen.
Maybe you missed that key part of it...
57 posted on 10/10/2004 1:12:01 PM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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To: SkyPilot

A Dishonorable Discharge is a punitive discharge under the Uniformed Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) and can only be given as part of the punishment for conviction under a General Courts Martial. Officers convicted by a General Courts Martial do not receive a Dishonorable Discharge, only enlisted personnel can receive that discharge. Officers receive its equivalent, dismissal from the service.

Unfortunately, when Kerry brought great shame on his country and his service, none of those actions were offenses under the UCMJ. At that time, he was serving in the Inactive Reserve and not subject to the UCMJ.

It is, however, imperative that his acts be kept in the news and that voters are aware of his betrayal of his country and fellow service members. The MSM cannot be relied upon to tell the truth about Kerry's past.


58 posted on 10/10/2004 1:13:58 PM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: real saxophonist

You are correct, officers do not get a Dishonorable Discharge, only an enlisted member can receive that discharge. In fact, technically, officers do not receive a discharge at all. They are separated from the service with a statement about their character of service.

There are in fact 4 different discharges that can be awarded; Honorable, General, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable. The last 2 are considered punitive discharges. That is that are part of the punishment given as a result of conviction under the Uniformed Code of Military Justice. Do a search on UCMJ text and you will find that under Article 2 of the UCMJ, Kerry wasn't even subject to the UCMJ when he met with the NVA in Paris in the early '70's. At that time he was in the inactive reserve and do not come under the provisions of th UCMJ.


59 posted on 10/10/2004 1:20:09 PM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: freespirited
Department of Defense (DOD) form 180

It is a Standard Form (SF) 180.

Is accuracy too much to ask?

60 posted on 10/10/2004 1:22:39 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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