I think Ron is pulling for Edwards--if you know what I mean. (And I had such high hopes for the boy after he delivered that great eulogy at his father's funeral ... oh well)
Posted on 10/08/2004 5:43:50 PM PDT by andrew1957
October 8th Bush/Kerry Debate
Yep.
From almost the beginning, he didn't look good.
Maybe because he got caught pulling out the talking points last time.
And tonite, he knew he was gonna have to wing it on his own.
And the President cleaned his clock.
Keep a sharp eye out at the next debate for another slight of hand by the contender.
Email The Note at abcnews.com and complain about Mark Halprin's bias....I just did.
Bush did quite well. Bush did well defending and explaining his position on everything from the environment to homeland security. Certainly an improvement from his performance at the first debate. He did seem, though, to have a uncomfort in his jaw. I realize that's me just being picky. He came across "cool" too. Not that cocky attitude that was on display last week. Good for him. You know what he believes in and he doesn't pander. I think Bush could've done a better job answering the final question about his mistakes. He should've been better prepared for that one.
Kerry, as expected, seemed comfortable (he's done plenty of these townhall meets) some of the time and stiff at other times. Surprisingly (he's been trained well), Kerry actually put some zest behind some of what he talked about. Still on certain questions he insisted that he "respects" a difference in opinion (eg, abortion) to the point that he comes across as pandering in an attempt to attract voters for the sake of doing just that. [Really, really, did you hear Kerry repeatedly say "really"?? Ok, enough, we gotcha Mr. Kerry.] And, that's problematic in that he doesn't seem genuine. Kerry enjoys to hear himself talk, doesn't he?!
Kerry's ongoing problem is that some of his past (eg, votes) doesn't quite gel with some of what he said (and continues to say on the trail). How do you believe someone who says one thing today, but did/said quite different in the past? Votes in the Senate to cut intel funding, while now he's all for mucho spending. (At one point during this debate, Kerry even admitted that he's going to have to cut back on some of his "favorite programs." As scary as it might seem, it begs the question about how many "favorite programs" he really has. Yikes. $$$$)
Yes, different circumstances, and yes things aren't always cut and dry, but it's still not clear who Kerry is and what he stands for. Kerry says things now, portraying himself as a moderate, but his nearly 20 years in the Senate clearly shows a different man. Hysterical how Kerry tries to wiggle out of it by complaining about how we shouldn't "label." Yah, but all your leftist surrogates can label your opponent, Senator? [Senator, in all fairness, you did refer to Bush as the "compassionate conservative" and mocked it.]
Wasn't it the nonpartisan National Journal that, after going through Kerry's voting record, placed the Senator left of the ideological center? If that's who he was for so long, how can it be that he's changed just in time for the presidential elections? Or, should we simply ignore Mr Kerry's voting record and fall for whatever he shovels our way?
Overall, no low blows or gaffes. Bush, 2; Kerry, 1.
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Oh lord, Susan Estrich is on Greta. I can't listen.
Oh No! Not the Screecher Creature!!!!!!
My take on that is that he was refering to international, or Scotish law. Any law but the real law, which is the Constitution.
"Sleeper"?
Hopefully Greta, Susan and CeCe get a roundtable sometime tonight to micromanage the Sadr City and Fallujah operations. There's nothing like the lawyer girls getting together to talk smart about our Iraq military engagements.
LOL, that is absolutely classic! Fox should do that, and have a cutaway to a bunch of military guys rolling on the floor laughing.
Me too. I was photographing a football game. Crawford won! 42-0. They haven't been scored on in four weeks!!! I take it from the absence of whining on this thread that Bush either did great, or Courage has been banned.
MSNBC is interviewing 14yr olds...jeez
Well Yes and No. Technically yes, but I think that was just an acceptable angle (i.e. vehicle) that allowed the abortion issued to be raised in that forum. The real underlying question (the divisive issue) was this: Is abortion really murder? Is it right or wrong? Should it be tolerated in our society? And both candidates knew it -- and both jumped on that immediately (from opposite ends of course), almost totally bypassing the tax/funding angle. After all, tax dollars are moot in the big scheme of life and death...at least IMO.
YIKES! Don't scare me like that!
OMG, I was watching KGO TV's local take on it - at Everett & Jones BBQ at Jack London Square (great BBQ and even better Long Island Iced Teas), and of course they were all Kerry supporters. The reporter said he wasn't likely to find a balanced crowd. But THEN I saw a man I know from my son's rec sports league (I coached his son) saying that he was going to vote for Bush but would vote for Kerry now. I.... don't think I believe that statement, is all I'll say. Sheesh.
I thought he handled such an assinine question very well.
LOL! Thank you!
I think Ron is pulling for Edwards--if you know what I mean. (And I had such high hopes for the boy after he delivered that great eulogy at his father's funeral ... oh well)
If you watch the integrity of how the diseased political "pundits" graded this thing, it's be like the guys on ESPN's "Baseball Tonight" coming on and going ... "I'd give the Yankees an A-, and the Twins a solid B+". An 8-1 pancaking.
When jock journalists have more credibility than news journalists, the palace coup cannot come soon enough.
Lurch has a thousand plans for every side of every issue. He'd be a bigger waffler than Jiminy Peanut, who nearly brought America to ruin and the effects of his disasterous presidency are still being felt.
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