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This needs to be stopped no matter what.
1 posted on 10/08/2004 5:58:22 AM PDT by NotchJohnson
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I am afraid it is going to happen. One morning we will wake up and hear of it on the news...and probably in a number of places at once. It, or some other horror, will be the Islamofascists way of trying to influence our electroal process.

...and if this nation puts Kerry in the White House, we will face unimaginable potential for this type of horror IMHO.

It is amazing to me...almost impossible to believe, that so many people could be so blind...could follow the pied piper. Kerry is the most left leaning politician to have ever been in the Senate. His record is that of a pure, unadulterated socialist/marxist. He is an enemy to the foundational principles upon which this nation has been founded and what has made her great...and he is unapologetic about it, and been extremely vocal about it over the years. He out and out betrayed this nation and all those who have fought and bled for her...and consorted with the enemy in so doing...he has not changed since.

How so many could have forgotten the lessons of 9-11, or the stark reality of what it is the terrorists and those nations and organizations that support them are doing up to this day...is beyond me. I pray that the majority of Americans...the vast majority...come out in numbers on November 2nd and defy and astonish this cabal of politicians, media, entertainers and their followers.

If we do not...I fear the horror we face will be magnified ten fold.

2 posted on 10/08/2004 6:01:23 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: NotchJohnson

IMHO this is the best reason we have to elimate "gun free zones" in our schools, and allow school employees who are CCW qualifed to carry during work. One of the big things I hate about dropping my kids off at school, is my .45 has to stay at home when I do.


3 posted on 10/08/2004 6:08:59 AM PDT by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy)
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To: NotchJohnson
This was the only disk that we KNOW of. The modus operandi was a hit in Beslan. I'm sure they'll take it on the road.
4 posted on 10/08/2004 6:09:27 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("...upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.")
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From http://www.freep.com/news/statewire/sw105367_20041008.htm

Computer disc found in Iraq contained floor plans, other data on schools in six states including Michigan
October 8, 2004, 5:35 AM


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Education officials in six states including Michigan were put on notice last month that a computer disc found in Iraq over the summer contained photos, floor plans and other information about schools in their districts, two U.S. government officials said.

The downloaded data the U.S. military found in July -- all publicly available on the Internet -- included an Education Department report guiding schools on how to prepare and respond to a crisis, one official said Thursday, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The officials said it was unclear who downloaded the information and stressed they had no evidence of any specific threats involving the schools.

The districts mentioned were in California, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, New Jersey and Oregon, officials said, adding that the FBI alerted local education and law enforcement authorities of the finding about three weeks ago.

Officials did not provide the names of the districts. But Kay Baker, superintendent of Oregon's Salem-Keizer district, confirmed hers was among them.

"Local law enforcement has no knowledge of a specific threat to any of our school buildings," she said. "We will work collaboratively with law enforcement on any further developments."

Homeland Security Department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said, "We are unaware of any specific information that indicates terrorists are plotting or planning an attack at a school here in the United States."

San Diego schools also were included, according to The San Diego Union-Tribune, and ABC News said there was a second California district. The Salem Statesman Journal reported the other districts were Fort Myers, Fla.; Jones County, Ga.; Birch Run, Mich.; and Franklinville and Rumson, both in New Jersey.

The disc contained an Education Department report called "Practical Information on Crisis Planning: A Guide for Schools and Communities," published in May 2003, as well as photos and floor plans.

Birch Run Superintendent Wayne Wright confirmed that the FBI contacted him two weeks ago.

"They stressed that there is no evidence of any threat involving Birch Run schools," Wright told The Saginaw News for a Friday story. "They said they had uncovered dated information about the computer disc and that they didn't know how credible it was.

"They said they receive thousands of pieces of information each day, and that they have to check each piece out. The main thing they emphasized was that they didn't want to raise a panic, but that they thought I should be informed."

In a separate but more widespread warning put out this week, the Education Department advised school leaders nationwide to watch for people spying on their buildings or buses to help detect any possibility of terrorism like the deadly school siege last month in Russia.

The warning follows an analysis by the FBI and the Homeland Security Department of the siege that killed more than 330 people, nearly half of them children, in the city of Beslan.

"The horror of this attack may have created significant anxiety in our own country among parents, students, faculty staff and other community members," Deputy Education Secretary Eugene Hickok said in a letter sent Wednesday to schools and education groups.

The Education Department's advice is based on lessons learned from the Russian siege. But there is no specific information indicating a terrorist threat to any schools or universities in the United States, Hickok and other officials emphasized.

Federal law enforcement officials also have urged local police to stay in contact with school officials and have encouraged reporting of suspicious activities, the letter said.

In particular, schools were told to watch for activities that may be legitimate on their own -- but may suggest a threat if many of them occur.

Among those activities:

-- Interest in obtaining site plans for schools, bus routes and attendance lists.

-- Prolonged "static surveillance" by people disguised as panhandlers, shoe shiners, or newspaper or flower vendors.

"It's a positive sign that they're finally discussing this after years of downplaying or denying even the possibility of a terrorist strike on schools," said Kenneth Trump, a Cleveland-based school safety consultant. "Public officials are in fear of creating fear, but we have to put the cards on the table, educate people in the school community and make sure they are well prepared."

The federal government is advising schools to take many steps to improve the security of their buildings. Those include installing locks for all doors and windows, having a single entry point into buildings and ensuring they can reach school bus drivers in an emergency.

Associated Press writers Curt Anderson and Ben Feller contributed to this report.

On the Net:

Education Department crisis planning help: http://www.ed.gov/emergencyplan/


6 posted on 10/08/2004 6:13:39 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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8 posted on 10/08/2004 6:16:22 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NotchJohnson

And the question is, what can we, the normal people, do about it? I have been thinking about this, can we start a kind of neighborhood watch for schools, where parents volunteer their time to keep watch at our schools? I'll be glad to take a day off to do it. Also, can police do weekly sweeps of schools to look for hidden weapons? Also, can the internal doors in the school be more fortified to make entry from the outside harder, without compromising a quick escape in case of fire? Please come up with your ideas on some practical measures we can take to do our part.


16 posted on 10/08/2004 6:38:11 AM PDT by Ironfocus
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To: NotchJohnson
The left has had the last sixty years to lull Americans to sleep with their
Peace at any cost mantra...Give Peace a Chance....War is Unhealthy for Children and Other Living Things...Make Love not War....

The events of 09-11 was just blip on the radar to the pop culture and media....they have been more inclined to get all the living victims into therapy as soon as possible...so they can put this behind them...and get back to the reality of sticking their heads in the sand...

We don't need no therapy...we need men...tough men...armed men...men who are itching to go kill the enemy...and are allowed to and encouraged to by our culture...

When the culture gets it collective head out of its collective arse...and starts popularizing the values of post Dec 7 1941...we just may be able to beat these bass turds...

As long as we have to fight open borders idiocy, the university and entertainment collectives as well as the foreign enemy
we are in for a tough fight..
21 posted on 10/08/2004 6:53:49 AM PDT by joesnuffy (America needs a 'Big Dog' on the porch not a easily frightened French Poodle)
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Did you see this thread with the states and locations of the districts listed. The other article was santitized by Yahoo or AP or someone!


55 posted on 10/08/2004 10:31:32 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NotchJohnson
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67 posted on 10/08/2004 2:30:50 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: NotchJohnson
A friend of mine whos brother teaches at one of the high schools here in South Jersey was one the list. The faculty has been briefed. I am not going to go into details.

Loose lips sink ships.

68 posted on 10/08/2004 2:34:40 PM PDT by mware
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