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Feds plan to track every car
World Net Daily ^ | October 7, 2004

Posted on 10/07/2004 4:41:36 PM PDT by JOAT

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1 posted on 10/07/2004 4:41:36 PM PDT by JOAT
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To: JOAT

Oh joy.


2 posted on 10/07/2004 4:44:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin (We have low inflation and and low unemployment.)
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To: JOAT

Paranoid ravings. What exactly is there they can put in your car that would know you've got a crack in your windshield and it's getting bigger?!

The problem with the conspiracy crowd is they always throw in some oddball obviously impossible piece of hyperbole that calls into question the entire article. Almost like they were purposely trying to discredit the conspiracy crowd.


3 posted on 10/07/2004 4:44:50 PM PDT by discostu (run faster run faster you fool you fool)
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To: JOAT

Fear not. You'll get used to it. You always have and you always will.


4 posted on 10/07/2004 4:45:28 PM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: JOAT

They shouldn't be allowed to archive the data for more than 1 week, without a crime being committed, and the data has to be locked and inaccessible without a subpoena.

The tracking device should use GPS tracking data to turn itself on and off, so it is only on when operating on public roads.

Better yet, don't install them.


5 posted on 10/07/2004 4:45:56 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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Um, no thank you or do I get a choice.


6 posted on 10/07/2004 4:46:35 PM PDT by ocr1
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

7 posted on 10/07/2004 4:46:37 PM PDT by mhking ("I was there at the dawn of the third age of mankind. It began in September of 2001...")
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To: JOAT

yeah, and then we're gonna reinstate Prohibition.

*sips beer*


8 posted on 10/07/2004 4:46:48 PM PDT by Zeppelin
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To: discostu
What exactly is there they can put in your car that would know you've got a crack in your windshield and it's getting bigger?!

Measure the impedance across the windshield. And I do have a crack in the windshield but It's not getting bigger.

9 posted on 10/07/2004 4:48:02 PM PDT by steve86
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What exactly is there they can put in your car that would know you've got a crack in your windshield and it's getting bigger?!

My mother-in-law!

10 posted on 10/07/2004 4:49:26 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: JOAT
Time for the tin foil hat people.

No. Seriously. A little tin foil over the antenna, and like magic, you're Stealth!

11 posted on 10/07/2004 4:50:11 PM PDT by narby (It's October now. LET'S ROLL!)
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Please put me on the Just Damn list...uhh.. make that the Just Damn ping list.
Thank you.


12 posted on 10/07/2004 4:52:10 PM PDT by Tweaker
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The agency's website says its purpose is to "use advanced technology to improve the efficiency and safety of our nation's surface transportation system."

Sure, just like the SSN, THAT hasn't been abused at all. I smell a giant camel turd!


13 posted on 10/07/2004 4:52:33 PM PDT by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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With what? They're gonna stick motion sensors all over my car? And yet they'll be so craftily hidden I won't be able to screw them up with a piece of Wrigley?! Or maybe they'll use lasers to map out my windshield, and while they're at it it'll map my hands and make sure I'm properly at 10 and 2 (never, I drive a stick, 12 and sometimes 6) and do proper hand-over-hand turning (never, I've mastered the flatpalm grip)?! Not happening.

I have a crack too, it happens to be up where the tint strip is so it's never grown.

Maybe, and this is a big maybe, RFIDs and readers in road signs. Here's always the problem with these things: why in God's name would anybody want all this data? What purpose would it serve? The worst thing that could possibly happen with this is they'd use it to generate speeding tickets (a frequent charge), because then nobody would be able to get away with speeding anymore, and nobody would speed anymore, and the police departments of our land would go broke... hmm now that I think about it maybe these things ARE a good idea ;)


14 posted on 10/07/2004 4:53:07 PM PDT by discostu (run faster run faster you fool you fool)
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To: JOAT
Find the input to the waveguide....and CUT IT OFF. Or, just take a pair of needle nosed pliers, and push a straight pin (or needle) such that both RF conductors are shorted, and make sure that it's not visible through the insulation....Problem solved!

This is a faily common trick now that rental car companies are tracking vehicles utilizing GPS.

Or....jam the GPS receiver on board and it won't exactly tell the "truth" about where you really are :-).
15 posted on 10/07/2004 4:53:56 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Luckily there's certain logistical problems to putting your mother-in-law in all cars. Watch our for cloning though.


16 posted on 10/07/2004 4:53:58 PM PDT by discostu (run faster run faster you fool you fool)
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To: coconutt2000
They shouldn't be allowed to archive the data for more than 1 week, without a crime being committed, and the data has to be locked and inaccessible without a subpoena.

That's pretty much where things currently stand. If you have a recent model car, take a look at the owner's manual. There is most likely a statement in there that refers to the data logging capabilities of the on-board computer. I've seen text that goes on a bit further and discusses who might gain access to the computer data (law enforcement and insurance companies top the list). Of course, they must have a good reason to seek such data. For now, at least.

17 posted on 10/07/2004 4:54:55 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Diplomats. The best diplomat I know of is a fully loaded phaser bank" - Cdr. Montgomery Scott)
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um...so how are they going to get this device on a car that doesn't have one ?


18 posted on 10/07/2004 4:55:43 PM PDT by stylin19a (Of all the things i have lost in my life, I miss my mind the most.)
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This is why I am preparing to drive a 1954 willys wagon....I can fix it myself and no one knows where I've been.

Maybe old cars will be worth a premium.


19 posted on 10/07/2004 4:56:49 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (seeking the truth here folks.)
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It's not quite as far-fetched as one would think. From the Intelligent Transportation Systems site (all emphasis in original) -
Goal: Achieve nationwide deployment of a communications infrastructure on the roadways and in all production vehicles and to enable a number of key safety and operational services that would take advantage of this capability.

Approach: This initiative builds on the research and operational tests conducted under the Department's Intelligent Vehicle Initiative. Vehicle manufacturers would install the technology in all new vehicles, beginning at a particular model year, to achieve the safety and mobility benefits while, at the same time, the federal/state/local transportation agencies would facilitate installation of the roadside communications infrastructure. Vehicles would serve as data collectors, transmitting traffic and road condition information from every major road within the transportation network. Access to this information will allow transportation agencies to implement active strategies to relieve congestion. In addition to these direct benefits to the traveling public and the operators of the transportation network, the automotive companies view VII as an opportunity to develop new businesses to serve their customers. To determine the feasibility and an implementation strategy, a three-party consortium has been formed consisting of the seven vehicle manufacturers involved in the IVI, AASHTO and ten State departments of transportation and the USDOT


20 posted on 10/07/2004 4:56:56 PM PDT by steveegg (John F'em Ke(rr)y - I am for & against a lot of things, but I was always for higher taxes.)
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