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House About to Strip More Civil Liberties in Name of Anti-terrorism
The NewStandard ^ | 10-7-2004 | Madeleine Baran

Posted on 10/07/2004 1:44:58 PM PDT by MagnusMaximus1


 
 

 

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House About to Strip More Civil Liberties in Name of Anti-terrorism
by Madeleine Baran (bio)

Oct 6 - Civil liberties and immigrant rights advocates say House Republicans are using legislation based on the 9/11 Commission's recommendations as cover to implement a series of troubling, un-related reforms condoning torture, limiting immigration and increasing surveillance of both non-citizens and citizens.

The House will vote on the 9/11 Recommendations Implementation Act this week. Opponents say the Republican leadership rushed the legislation to the floor without much time for debate or public input, just as Congress prepares to recess for a pre-election break.

In addition to overhauling national security agencies, as recommended by the 9/11 Commission, the legislation would also allow the US government to deport immigrants to countries that allow torture, severely restrict asylum seekers, and compile a massive database of information on law-abiding citizens. The 9/11 Commission did not recommend any of these reforms, some of which were found in the Domestic Security Enhancement Act, commonly known as "Patriot II" -- legislation so alarming, public outcry kept it from coming to a vote. Recently lawmakers in both the House and Senate have introduced legislation that would revive pieces of that controversial bill (previous coverage).

"The House is acting as a rogue group," Tracy Hong, director of policy for the National Asian Pacific American Legal Consortium, a civil rights and advocacy group. "They're defying the 9/11 Commission."

House Republicans disagree, saying the bill would prevent terrorists from entering the US. In a written statement, House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-IL), said the bill "will improve terrorism prevention and prosecution, so we can get the terrorists -- and those who help them -- before they get us. It will improve border security and make it harder for terrorists to travel to America. It will improve international cooperation and better coordinate anti-terrorism efforts with our allies."

Congressman F. James Sessenbrenner, Jr. (R-WI), a leading supporter of the bill, also released a statement calling the bill "a firm, serious stand against terrorism," which will both protect civil liberties and make the country safer.

The Senate version, also expected to come to a vote this week, contains few of the extra provisions. If the House bill passes, the differing versions will be reconciled in committee.

The bill would allow the government to deport non-citizens who committed serious crimes or human rights violations to countries where they would likely be tortured. The provision appears to be in direct violation of the Convention Against Torture, signed by the US in 1989 Article Three of which states: "No State Party shall expel, return…or extradite a person to another State where there are substantial grounds for believing that he would be in danger of being subjected to torture."

Erin Corcoran, staff attorney for Human Rights First's asylum program, said violating the Treaty could put Americans at risk abroad. "If we can carve out exceptions, why can't another country carve out exceptions?" she asked. "If you let someone torture someone, you're condoning torture. If you don't want an absolute ban, you shouldn't have signed on to this convention."

The bill would also allow immigration officials to deport non-citizens to countries without a recognized government, unless the receiving country "physically prevents" the individual from entering.

The bill contains numerous other provisions affecting immigrants, particularly those seeking asylum. Under the proposed bill, most immigrants would be denied the right to remain in the US while the federal courts review their case. Currently, individuals can apply for a temporary "stay of removal," typically granted to immigrants who appear to have a valid claim for asylum and would face torture or hardship if returned to their native country.

Corcoran said the provision could have drastic consequences for asylum seekers. If their claims of persecution are valid, she said, and they are returned to their country pending court review, "they are going to be dead or in prison."

Immigration officials would also be allowed to deport non-citizens who have been in the US more than a year but less than five years, without any judicial or administrative review of their claims.

Hong said the legislation would result in the deportation of immigrants who have a legal right to stay, because there would be no opportunity to present an argument for remaining in the country. "Let's just say [the immigrant is] married to a US citizen," Hong said. "There would be no context for him or her to raise that issue."

The bill would also take away noncitizen immigrants' rights to request a review of their case before the federal court. Immigrants seeking to challenge the decisions of immigration officials currently bring their case before the Immigration Court, then the Board of Immigration Appeals, and then by filing a writ of habeas corpus before the federal court. Under the proposed legislation, that final option would be eliminated.

Corcoran said the federal review is especially important because recent reforms by Attorney General John Ashcroft have drastically decreased immigrants' chances of winning an appeal at the Board of Immigration Appeals level. "[The Board review] procedure has been gutted," she said. "The only place that most people are able to get relief and get asylum is the federal court."

In addition, the legislation would require asylum seekers to prove that their race, religion, political opinion, nationality or membership in a particular social group was the central motive for their persecution – a provision no other country requires, according to human rights advocacy group Human Rights First. Advocates say that proving a central motive for persecution is often impossible.

Corcoran said the legislation would make proving gender-based persecution especially difficult. "I think the best example is a woman being beaten by her husband," she said. "It's probably for a lot of reasons -- including that he thinks she is his property, but maybe also because he's drunk or had a bad day at work." Cases like these, she said, would be difficult to win if the House bill passes.

The severity of the reforms has alarmed many advocates for asylum seekers and other immigrants, who say the changes will take away due process from some of the most vulnerable individuals in the legal system.

"[These provisions] weren't included at all in the original 9/11 Commission report," said Michele Waslin, immigration policy analyst for the National Council of la Raza, the nation's largest Hispanic advocacy organization. "Clearly the House Republicans are looking at this as a vehicle to pass anti-immigrant legislation."

Civil liberties activists say the legislation also contains disturbing provisions increasing government surveillance of law-abiding citizens. The Senate version would create an "Information Sharing Network," combining commercial and government information into a massive database, similar to the controversial Matrix (previous coverage) system already rejected by most states.

Timothy Edgar, legislative counsel for the ACLU, said the legislation would also allow private individuals to access the data, with "no real protections for privacy." Edgar added that companies like Seisint, creators of Matrix, could attempt to sell their extensive databases to the government if the bill passes. Matrix came under scrutiny when state officials and civil liberties activists raised concerns about the safety of the data, which included everything from hunting and fishing licenses to photographs of neighbors and business associates.

The House version also contains sections originally found in a leaked draft of the controversial "Patriot II" legislation, including the "lone wolf" provision, which would allow the government to extend secret surveillance power, granted under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), to non-citizens who do not have a connection to a foreign power or terrorist group and without requiring investigators to show probable cause.

In joint testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee last month, Assistant Attorney General Daniel J. Bryant and Barry Sabin, chief of the criminal division of the counter-terrorism section in the Justice Department, said, "[T]he reality today is that a terrorist who seeks to attack the United States may be a 'lone wolf' who is not connected to a foreign terrorist group, or someone whose connection to a foreign terrorist group is not known."

But in a counter testimony, Edgar, the ACLU counsel, said pre-9/11 laws are sufficient. He argued that the Justice Department has not been able to provide a single example of a case in which they were unable to obtain the surveillance power they needed either through existing criminal law or through a FISA warrant.

The House bill would also expand the definition of "providing material support" for terrorists and make it a federal crime for any US citizen to receive "military-type training" from a group designated as a terrorist organization by the US government. "Military-type training" is defined as training "in means or methods that can cause death or serious bodily injury, destroy or damage property, or disrupt services to critical infrastructure, or training on the use, storage, production, or assembly of any explosive, firearm or other weapon, including any weapon of mass destruction." The provision would apply to everyone who receives such training, regardless of whether they ever act on the training or renounce their allegiance to the group.

In addition, the bill would change the definition of providing personnel to terrorist groups to include providing oneself. In a written statement, the ACLU notes, "In other words, mere association or membership in the group can be a crime, even if no money or other resources are provided. It would apply even to a person that has nothing to do with the group's violent activities and even to a member that is trying to persuade the group to give up violence and join the political process."

The bill would also allow employers to access potential worker' arrest records. Although the records will come with a notice that the individual has not been charged, indicted or convicted, the ACLU says employers are "still very likely to take a mere arrest into account when making hiring decisions."

Civil liberties and immigrant advocates say they hope many of the provisions will be removed, and are encouraging people to contact their senators and representatives to voice their concerns, but add that the legislation is expected to move quickly through the House and Senate this week, with little time for discussion.

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To: mountaineer

"I simply suggested there would be no kneejerk reaction from me, especially when I was unfamiliar with the particular biases of the website posting the article."

Well the website is a very liberal one. The fact that they oppose this bill has nothing to do with conservative opposition to it. And there's plenty of that. This whole thing is a civil rights issue, and civil rights affect both ends of the political spectrum. It may be the only place we all agree.


61 posted on 10/07/2004 2:13:01 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MagnusMaximus1

This is a press release.
I want to see the actual bill on this.


62 posted on 10/07/2004 2:13:13 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Beginning of the end....http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1236609/posts?page=3)
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"No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session."
- Mark Twain
63 posted on 10/07/2004 2:14:10 PM PDT by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: FesterUSMC

Er, you do know that the "R" stands for, right?


64 posted on 10/07/2004 2:14:49 PM PDT by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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To: Eaker

Hillary could designate the NRA a terrorist organization. What then???

Then I guess it would be time to use all that "military training".


65 posted on 10/07/2004 2:15:01 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: mabelkitty

Go here, for a .pdf file containing the bill:

http://eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/Terrorism/PATRIOT/20040924_Hastert_bill.pdf


66 posted on 10/07/2004 2:15:45 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: JiggyMac
Are there today Islamofascists willing to blow up our buildings? If "yes" then LESS CIVIL LIBERTIES FOR YOU!
Interesting position. The point of terrorism is to cause a change. By revoking our Constitution we will be handing them the victory on a silver platter.
67 posted on 10/07/2004 2:16:15 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: mabelkitty

Note:

The text of the bill is 335 pages long. It's a lot to wade through.


68 posted on 10/07/2004 2:16:46 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Eaker; Sthitch

I tend to agree with him.
Why not post the parts in the bill that confirm this press release?


69 posted on 10/07/2004 2:16:58 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Beginning of the end....http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1236609/posts?page=3)
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To: JiggyMac

"Are there today Islamofascists willing to blow up our buildings? If "yes" then LESS CIVIL LIBERTIES FOR YOU!"

Passage of this bill is an admission that the so-called "terrorists" have won. You really need to stop drinking the Bush/Cheney campaign "we are more secure today" Kool Aid.

If the GOP establishment passes this bill, they will lose their majority within the next two elections. If Bush signs this bill, he loses November 2nd.

I don't know what country YOU come from, but, believe me, we Americans value our freedoms and will eventually punish those who try to take it away.


70 posted on 10/07/2004 2:18:00 PM PDT by MagnusMaximus1 (Molon Labe!)
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To: kddid
I wonder how many people here think the government wants to watch them.

Are we counting the ones who've personally FReeped sKerry or Shrillary, if and when they get elected President?

71 posted on 10/07/2004 2:18:26 PM PDT by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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To: mabelkitty

Here's the Gun Owners of America's take on this bill:

House 9/11 Bill Will Set Up A Database On All Americans, Create National ID Card
Gun Owners of America
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102
Springfield, VA 22151
(703)321-8585
Monday, October 4, 2004

What part of "Constitution" don't they understand?

In a frightening move, House Republicans -- members of the party that supposedly favors "limited government" -- are pushing an Orwellian nightmare in Congress in the name of "national security."

In the wake of the 9/11 Commission's recommendations, the Senate -- unlike the House -- has prepared legislation which would closely track that Commission's findings by reorganizing the intelligence services in the federal government. The Senate bill is relatively innocuous compared to the House version, HR 10.

Unfortunately, many of the so-called Republicans in the House are pushing this nightmarish legislation which would:

* Create a massive government database containing personal information on every American man, woman and child;
* Standardize (i.e., nationalize) the process of issuing driver's licenses -- thereby taking the final step toward creating a national ID card; and
* Set up a system whereby any employer or industry identified by the Attorney General would have to submit employment applicants to the government for approval -- complete with fingerprints or other "biometric identifiers."
Now, let's look at how each of these problems could affect your rights -- gun rights in particular:

(1) The government database is created by section 2173 of HR 10, a bill introduced by House Speaker Dennis Hastert. It would allow airline passengers to be screened against lists containing "all appropriate records." What would be "appropriate" would be within the exclusive discretion of the bureaucrats, but could include medical records, confidential financial records, library records, and gun records.

(2) The driver's license standards are in section 3052. They would allow the federal government to set standards as high as desired to determine who may or may not obtain a driver's license. Please note that you need a driver's license (or similarly regulated state-issued photo ID) to purchase a gun from a dealer. But, increasingly, you also need it to travel on any form of transportation (airplane, bus, train, car), to get a job, to open a checking account, to cash a check, to check into a hotel, to rent a car, or to purchase cigarettes or alcohol. If the federal government can set standards so high as to deny you a driver's license or photo ID, it has effectively turned you into a non-person.

(3) Section 2142 would allow the U.S. attorney general to promulgate any regulations he desires concerning (a) what employers must submit the names and fingerprints of all employment applicants to the FBI, (b) what standards the government will use in approving or disapproving the employment applicants, and (c) whether or not the government's "disapproval" will prevent the applicant from being hired.

There is nothing in section 2142 which would prohibit an anti-gun attorney general from (a) requiring the resumes and fingerprints of every employment applicant in the country, (b) disapproving them on the basis of gun ownership or, for that matter, any factor he viewed as not being politically correct, and (c) prohibiting any employer from hiring an applicant thus blacklisted.

ACTION: Write your representative. Ask him, in the strongest terms, to vote against any "9/11 legislation" that (1) creates a government database of personal information on law-abiding Americans, (2) moves toward the use of a driver's license as a National ID Card, or (3) sets up a system for fingerprinting and approving job applicants in the private sector.

You can use the pre-written message below and send it as an e-mail by visiting the GOA Legislative Action Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm (where phone and fax numbers are also available).

----- Pre-written message -----
Dear Representative:

Movement toward an oppressive government does not make me feel more "secure."

Therefore, I would urge you, in the strongest terms, to please vote against HR 10, The 9/11 Recommendations Implementation Act, if it:

* Creates a massive government database containing personal information on every American man, woman and child [section 2173];

* Standardizes (i.e., nationalizes) the process of issuing driver's licenses -- thereby taking the final step toward creating a national ID card [section 3052];

* Sets up a system whereby any employer or industry identified by the Attorney General would have to submit employment applicants to the government for approval -- complete with fingerprints or other "biometric identifiers" [section 2142].

Frankly, the ideas which are being floated with respect to this legislation are simply horrible, and are surely unworthy of those who have sworn to protect the Constitution.


72 posted on 10/07/2004 2:19:21 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: GrandEagle

Back to the drawing board... we can have liberty AND security... I smell liberal pork in this designed to thwart its original intent... who's with me?


73 posted on 10/07/2004 2:19:34 PM PDT by rennatdm
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To: MagnusMaximus1

You've gotta love that unbiased title for this article.


74 posted on 10/07/2004 2:20:11 PM PDT by jpl (John Kerry is the 2-7 offsuit in the great Presidential poker game.)
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To: Eaker
If citizens as defined by the Constitution and guaranteed by the Bill of Rights were allowed to arm themselves as they see fit then metal detector would not be needed anywhere.
AMEN!!
75 posted on 10/07/2004 2:20:20 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: MagnusMaximus1
Well THIS is an interesting source from which to glean your info. I love the reading habits of all you true conservatives.
76 posted on 10/07/2004 2:20:36 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: rennatdm

77 posted on 10/07/2004 2:21:34 PM PDT by glock rocks ("I couldn't be out of gas. The light didn't come on." ... then she voted.)
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To: MagnusMaximus1

Liberty for citizens and deport illegal or ungreatful immigrant.


78 posted on 10/07/2004 2:22:26 PM PDT by LowNslow (Retired CWO)
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To: glock rocks

Unfortunately, the enemy we face is unlike any Jefferson probably imagined when he said that.

In any case, I would rather live in a country that deported/interned Muslims than one which had national ID cards/databases on every citizen.


80 posted on 10/07/2004 2:23:16 PM PDT by Veritas et equitas ad Votum (If the Constitution "lives and breathes", it dies.)
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