Explosion in Taba Hilton

Israel National News ^ | 22:14 Oct 07, '04 / 22 Tishrei 5765

[yonif]

(IsraelNN.com) An explosion occurred a short time ago in the Taba Hilton, on the Egyptian side of the border. According preliminary reports from Magen David Adom emergency medical service officials, the cause of the blast was a gas tank.

There are unconfirmed reports of dozens of injured. The IDF has already ordered helicopters into the air and MDA is mobilizing to treat the many wounded in the blast. Details to follow as they become available.

[rang1995]

i think egypts tourist trade will be hit hard for this--"peace treaty" ha

[Pitiricus]

The head of Israeli airports say the contrary...

He says that the border is sort of opened...

What is not yet given, is permission for Israeli helicopters to fly in Egypt...

[Pitiricus]

I post when I hear...

Now the head of the security committee in the Knesset says that they have not yet any idea of who did it...

[Pitiricus]

... but he believe that it will be linked to Hamas...

[Kornev]

Um, it still says one has to be compared to nazis. Simply bringing up nazis or WW2 isn't under this.

[radicalamericannationalist]

Yep.

From the Godwin piece you linked to: "The Nazi-comparison meme, I'd decided, had gotten out of hand - in countless Usenet newsgroups, in many conferences on the Well, and on every BBS that I frequented, the labeling of posters or their ideas as "similar to the Nazis" or "Hitler-like" was a recurrent and often predictable event. It was the kind of thing that made you wonder how debates had ever occurred without having that handy rhetorical hammer." This is from the Godwin article you linked to.

I did not compare you or your idea to Nazis or Nazism. You have the honor of being Chamberlain. Or is there some "law" against referring to historical appeasers as well?

[Pitiricus]

35 dead now... They believe it was a truck.

At Ras alSatan, the Egyptians speak of 43 people wounded.

[rang1995]

if all our intell is wrong now about iraq and WMD why are the dems so sure about OKC and TWA800 (both terror i think,no know!!!)re look at those it was covered up by those in power

[judicial meanz]

This is my personal opinion, so I will preface it:

The Egyptian passive-aggressive border enforcement and malicious compliance with Israeli requests for humanitarian assistance is really irking me.

It only served the purpose of maximizing the extent of injury and death the Israelis suffered in the attacks by denying them the "golden hour" of emergency medical treatment.

I wont go so far as to blame Egypt for aid and comfort to the terrorists by helping them maximize the casualties, but it sure looked that way from the outside.

If they intentionally did that, then they are no better than the terrorists who exploded the ordinance.

[killjoy]

Um, it still says one has to be compared to nazis. Simply bringing up nazis or WW2 isn't under this.

Actually comparing anything to Nazis (or Hitler) invokes it. It does not have to be a personal attack calling someone a Nazi or refering to them as Hitler. If this continues I am going to have to call Shenanigans. :)

[SJackson]

Negotiations required at the highest levels, I'm sure

Israel Seeking to Land Chopper in Ras a-Sutan

01:21 Oct 08, '04 / 23 Tishrei 5765

(IsraelNN.com) Israel is negotiating with Egyptian authorities to land a Yasur transport chopper in Ras a-Sutan in order to evacuate the many wounded at that location.

[SJackson]

Egypt Continue to Delay Rescuers
01:31 Oct 08, '04 / 23 Tishrei 5765

(IsraelNN.com) A report from Taba at about 01:00 confirmed that Egyptian authorities continue to impede the arrival of rescuers, explaining that dozens of MDA medics on board a bus were being held up – prevented from reaching the Taba Hilton. At some point, the medic left the bus and began making their way on foot.

Some Israelis Transported to Sharm and Suez
01:32 Oct 08, '04 / 23 Tishrei 5765

(IsraelNN.com) Channel Two News senior analyst Ehud Ya’ari reported that some of the Israeli wounded were transported to Sharm el-Sheikh and Suez, quoting an Egyptian media source.

This has not been confirmed by Israeli authorities.

[Pitiricus]

Egyptians are still asking for passports, and this even from people whose passports are in the hotel!

Bastards!

[SJackson]

I don't mean to lessen the dispicable occurrence, but after all it is "The Hilton". What has this family accomplished to further morality...need I say more.

Did they bomb a Hilton in Kenya? Wasn't the hotel they were after, rather the tourists.

[cookcounty]

" 35 dead now... They believe it was a truck.

So....any idea if the 35 is at Taba or 35 in all?

[Pitiricus]

35 dead in Taba... ow 7 at least in ras alSatan...

And this isn't the end!

[SeattleTiger]

I support Israel, her allies, and whatever military action needs to happen to protect her. I support eradicating the terrorists. I don't support armchair quarterbacks talking smack.

I responded in support of someone who questioned the "Bomb the Pyramids/be cute by writing the f word with the letters reversed" mindset. If you want to argue, I welcome it, but argue the point I was making -- that the vitriol in parts of this thread is not on the side of right -- nor is hate.

[radicalamericannationalist]

Bombing the pyramids is foolish because they hold little interest for Muslims; indeed, the Taliban would probably treat them as they did the Buddhist mountain carvings.

However, given the reactions of the Egyptian government posted on this thread, it is apparent that our enemies are not only the terrorists themselves but the civilians who cheer them, succor them and drag their feet in fighting them. If "moderate Islam" exists, it had better rise up and bring us some terrorists' heads on pikes. Until then, I feel that just as we did not blather about "moderate Shinto" or "mainstream fascism" in World War II, we had best be prepared to understand what the Muslims already do: theirs is a fighting faith and they are practicing it with relish.

[SJackson]

The Egyptian passive-aggressive border enforcement and malicious compliance with Israeli requests for humanitarian assistance is really irking me....It only served the purpose of maximizing the extent of injury and death the Israelis suffered in the attacks by denying them the "golden hour" of emergency medical treatment...I wont go so far as to blame Egypt for aid and comfort to the terrorists by helping them maximize the casualties, but it sure looked that way from the outside...If they intentionally did that, then they are no better than the terrorists who exploded the ordinance.

Well you can clearly blame Egypt for supplying the terrorists in Gaza, in violation the the 79 treaty, of which the US is a party. Egypt is a party to the terror.

[radicalamericannationalist]

Again, I'll refer you to the link you posted. Note it refers to posters and their ideas. Up until this point, I have assumed you do not identify yourself with terrorists. Have I been wrong? I don't think I was. I still see you as Chamberlain.

From the article you linked: "The Nazi-comparison meme, I'd decided, had gotten out of hand - in countless Usenet newsgroups, in many conferences on the Well, and on every BBS that I frequented, the labeling of posters or their ideas as "similar to the Nazis" or "Hitler-like" was a recurrent and often predictable event. It was the kind of thing that made you wonder how debates had ever occurred without having that handy rhetorical hammer"