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Debates / Speech: Did they even mention one of the biggest issues of them all?
The Brutal Truth | 10.6.04 | Joe Hadenuf

Posted on 10/06/2004 7:28:20 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf

I heard they mentioned and discussed Egypt, health care, Iran, meals on wheels, law suites, Africa, Tax cuts, Iraq, Social Security, Israel, Aids, open heart surgery, teachers, Korea, public schools, their voting records, who cares more about the troops, Medicare, Halliburton, etc etc..

Did they even mention the millions pouring into our country illegally, during war time yet? What is it now? 3 million a year?

Are we kidding ourselves? Is the joke on us?

We have a Presidential debate, a VP debate, and a speech today from the President of the United States, yet has either side even mentioned one of the biggest, most threatening issues facing this nation?

Has this issue grown so large that the MSM, and all the politicos running as fast as they can from it? Did they agree not to mention it?

Is the king naked? Are we stupid? Do they have a hidden agenda? Are they stupid? Should we even bring this up? Are they really on the same team? Am I stepping out of line? Will this thread be sent to the corn field?


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KEYWORDS: bushbotsluvillegals; culture; joeisright; joeisstupid; onetrickpony; vpdebate
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1 posted on 10/06/2004 7:28:20 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Is the king naked? Are we stupid? Do they have a hidden agenda? Are they stupid? Should we even bring this up? Are they really on the same team? Am I stepping out of line? Will this thread be sent to the corn field?

Yes
No
Yes
No
Yes
I guess so
No
No


2 posted on 10/06/2004 7:32:02 PM PDT by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo for President/Jeff Flake VP 2004!)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

The BIG question is "WHY WON'T KERRY SIGN A 180 FORM. We could end up with a DISHONORABLE DISCHARGED president.


3 posted on 10/06/2004 7:32:48 PM PDT by Uncle George
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To: Joe Hadenuf

It's not an issue. Buchanan proved that. It doesn't register on any polls of what voters are concerned about.


4 posted on 10/06/2004 7:33:19 PM PDT by bayourod (Even security moms should now know that you can't lead while waffling and calling Iraq the wrong war)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Joe,

One day, when economic collapse comes to fruition, and that day is coming, (I don't know when) then we will all collectively decide that we've all hadenuf.

When the day comes, many of us will fret over how tough times are, and in doing so we will find someone else to blame. Jews will get blamed for hoarding money (forget that they actually earned it with hard work and competence, emotion will trump reason), the welfare class will get blamed for siphoning off money, and this will be somewhat deserved, and if things get really bad, many will start to wish that the elderly would just die quicker.

Trust me, it'll be ugly. But it seems it's our nature not to do anything about our various problems until the problem has got us up to our eyeballs.

I hope I don't live to see the "day" I refer to above.


5 posted on 10/06/2004 7:39:12 PM PDT by kbeam
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Joe,

One day, when economic collapse comes to fruition, and that day is coming, (I don't know when) then we will all collectively decide that we've all hadenuf.

When the day comes, many of us will fret over how tough times are, and in doing so we will find someone else to blame. Jews will get blamed for hoarding money (forget that they actually earned it with hard work and competence, emotion will trump reason), the welfare class will get blamed for siphoning off money, and this will be somewhat deserved, and if things get really bad, many will start to wish that the elderly would just die quicker.

Trust me, it'll be ugly. But it seems it's our nature not to do anything about our various problems until the problem has got us up to our eyeballs.

I hope I don't live to see the "day" I refer to above.


6 posted on 10/06/2004 7:39:36 PM PDT by kbeam
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To: bayourod

Surely it matters as much as school vouchers or gay marriage.


7 posted on 10/06/2004 7:39:45 PM PDT by BenLurkin (We have low inflation and and low unemployment.)
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(Write-in Tom Tancredo for President/Jeff Flake VP 2004!)

LOL Why do you want to write in Jeff Flake?

8 posted on 10/06/2004 7:41:15 PM PDT by Fatalis
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It doesn't register on any polls of what voters are concerned about.

Buchanan's candidacy is an eon ago.

The 'water cooler' talk at my Georgia office indicates people are paing more attention. About taxes, overflowing ERs, Latino B&E/rape gangs, drugs/prostitution, vanishing low-end job oportunities...you bet people are noticing what's going on.

9 posted on 10/06/2004 7:41:30 PM PDT by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo for President/Jeff Flake VP 2004!)
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To: Fatalis

Like Tom Tancredo, Jeff Flake is an AZ House Rep who is serious about dealing with border security & illegal immigration issues.


10 posted on 10/06/2004 7:45:39 PM PDT by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo for President/Jeff Flake VP 2004!)
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Jeff Flake is an AZ House Rep who is serious about dealing with border security & illegal immigration issues.

LOL No he isn't. Google search Jeff Flake and Jim Kolbe as well as guet workers.

11 posted on 10/06/2004 7:48:57 PM PDT by Fatalis
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To: kbeam
I hope I don't live to see the "day" I refer to above.

You probably will, I don't expect it's that far off.

However, I do expect [or hope] that with the help of the new media [you're looking at it rignt now], that the public will get it right and finger the perps as the Illegals themselves and DC politicians that greased the skids to help their various K Street-connected donors.

Time for a guy that must be at work eight hours from now to sign off.

Will check back later.

12 posted on 10/06/2004 7:53:57 PM PDT by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo for President/Jeff Flake VP 2004!)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Sure it was silly - but still gratifying - to return the latest GOP fund-raising request with "other amount" checked, and a one-peso coin taped to the return letter.
13 posted on 10/06/2004 7:54:47 PM PDT by dagnabbit (Prevent the next 9-11. Stop Islamic immigration and deport Muslim aliens.)
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Whoops, looks like this has been sent to the corn field..


14 posted on 10/06/2004 8:00:10 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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I agree that it's an important issue, but regretably the election campaign is not the best place to bring it up. It's a no-win proposition. If Bush comes out in favor of admitting more illegal aliens, he angers his base. If he comes out in favor of enforcing tougher immigration laws, he gives the Democrats a terrific opportunity to pander for the Hispanic vote.

I wish he would tighten up after the election. But it would be disastrous to raise the issue now. It's a political third rail.


15 posted on 10/06/2004 8:04:06 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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From a post: " It doesn't register on any polls of what voters are concerned about -

Last I heard, around 70+% were against illegals. The problem is - the majority of the "illegals" end up going to chosen locations - in a few states - and this is how the people in government (and media) keep this well below radar - (isolate them and keep the areas from communicating with each other and with the rest of America)

If we had a "free" media - they would be reporting on the cries of those being harmed by all the illegals - but as we all know - that just isn't the case and the issue of the illegals points to that in a big way -

You never see a story(get national attention) that mentioned the crimes or anything else connected to "illegals" - just as during the Clinton years, the media under reported or failed to mention crimes increasing by African Americans against Whites -

Not only are Mexicans increasing in large numbers, but so are Muslims - how do you think that would go over if the people realized the truth - ?

The agenda is set - and no one is about to mess with it - some because they are unsure of the outcome(no backbone) and some because it is part of their plan to bring in all the illegals - the nation will stay divided. The culture of America will fall - along with the nation itself. Defeated from within - as predicted

just my thoughts -


16 posted on 10/06/2004 8:06:00 PM PDT by Pastnowfuturealpha
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Hugh and series.


17 posted on 10/06/2004 8:06:38 PM PDT by AmishDude
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I thought the same thing myself. We hear candidates constantly repeating themselves in debates that are far too long. Why didn't one of the moderators have the balls to even ask the question about it and put it in play? Dems and repubs both have no sack when it comes to the invasion. Our leaders seldom lead.


18 posted on 10/06/2004 8:10:34 PM PDT by Milton Friedman
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To: AmishDude

Oh, thanks for that Iowa comment. I can see, you're on the case, cutting edge comment.


19 posted on 10/06/2004 8:12:59 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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Say hi to Boxer and Feinstein, your "representatives," for me.


20 posted on 10/06/2004 9:46:20 PM PDT by AmishDude
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