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A Seismic Shift in our National Safety
Washington Dispatch.com ^ | October 6, 2004 | Commentary by Donald A. Collins

Posted on 10/06/2004 5:57:21 PM PDT by Conservative Firster

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1 posted on 10/06/2004 5:57:21 PM PDT by Conservative Firster
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To: Conservative Firster

Yes, the President has a better plan.


2 posted on 10/06/2004 6:01:26 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: Conservative Firster

BTW, if you don't already know, you should know that the column is a Democrat division piece against our Campaign effort.

The President will win the Election, regardless of what the pro-terrorist Democrats and Europeans who call us "neo-cons" want.


3 posted on 10/06/2004 6:04:38 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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I am truly disheartened that our elected officials are pandering to the illegal Mexicans. I just don't understand it.

The only thing that I can think of is the "one global world" that I heard Bush Sr. talk about when he was President.

4 posted on 10/06/2004 6:06:04 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)))
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To: Conservative Firster
The provisions in question have absolutely nothing to do with national security or terrorism.

These type of deceptions and lies are typical of the anti-Bush anti-Mexican racists who hide behind the children security to promote their hatred and bigotry.

5 posted on 10/06/2004 6:08:48 PM PDT by bayourod (Even security moms should now know that you can't lead while waffling and calling Iraq the wrong war)
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And this election has nothing to do with electing the next president of the United States.


6 posted on 10/06/2004 6:12:14 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2 (Do not denigrate people until you've walked in their shoes where they have walked.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

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7 posted on 10/06/2004 6:13:23 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2

huh?


8 posted on 10/06/2004 6:13:55 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: bayourod

can you explain the provisions then?


9 posted on 10/06/2004 6:14:09 PM PDT by Chilldoubt
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

Oh Puh-leeeeeeze!!

Don't fall for the dem strategy of divide and conquer.

The President's plan is better than what the 911 commission wrote. That's why the President wants the 911 articles taken out.


10 posted on 10/06/2004 6:52:40 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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Which one are you confused about? You do know that the provisions in question were not part of the 9/11 Commission recommendations don't you?


11 posted on 10/06/2004 7:03:27 PM PDT by bayourod (Even security moms should now know that you can't lead while waffling and calling Iraq the wrong war)
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To: familyop
BTW, if you don't already know, you should know that the column is a Democrat division piece against our Campaign effort.

Please expand and link support for your contention?

I realty want to believe you, however, I am afraid that this action is consistent with GWB previous actions.

I remember when I took down my “Another Family in Support of the Troops and Bush” sign. The exact day that he announced his amnesty that was not amnesty.

I am holding my nose and voteing for GWB, however, now I might just stay home.

12 posted on 10/06/2004 7:35:51 PM PDT by Aquakat
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It has just been learned that the Bush Administration is pressuring the GOP Leadership, the main authors of H.R. 10, to strip the immigration provisions from H.R. 10.

Hastert's office issued a press release this afternoon that said this is totally false. The Bush administration is doing no such thing.

13 posted on 10/06/2004 7:39:11 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I exist in the fevered swamps of traditional arcana. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: bayourod
The provisions in question have absolutely nothing to do with national security or terrorism.

Looks like valid points to me. Although I am not too hot on #4

1. Federal employees could not accept Matricula Consular cards as ID.
2. Illegal aliens would be subject to expedited removal, avoiding frivolous delay proceedings which often take years.
3. Use of a revoked visa would allow deportation.
4. Sets National Drivers’ License standards for all states
5. Establishes an interstate drivers’ license database to avoid duplication and fraud
6. Requires a birth/death records system be kept to avoid granting false identities.

These type of deceptions and lies are typical of the anti-Bush anti-Mexican racists who hide behind the children security to promote their hatred and bigotry.

LOL, most Americans of Mexican decent are in favor of stopping illegals.

Anti Bush? Shouldn’t one support the man because of policies and beliefs instead of supporting the policies because of the man. I for one have core values and support the person that meets these values.

14 posted on 10/06/2004 7:54:43 PM PDT by Aquakat
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Thank G-d I live in DC, and don't have dirty myself by voting for Mexico-merger activist Jorge Jr.

Since any 'Rat will win collect DC's 3 electoral votes with a 90 percent margin, I'm free to write in someone else or just leave the President slot blank.

15 posted on 10/06/2004 8:00:16 PM PDT by dagnabbit (Prevent the next 9-11. Stop Islamic immigration and deport Muslim aliens.)
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Which provision would prevent a terrorist from entering the U.S. or completing his mission?

Remember, terrorist have immense financial resources and state sponsored resources.

Terrorists don't swim the Rio Grande or crawl across the desert. They have officially issued visas and identification papers, even if the names are phony and the stated reasons for visiting are lies.

The provisions in question were added by Congressmen to keep out low income laborers, not terrorists.

16 posted on 10/06/2004 8:08:06 PM PDT by bayourod (Even security moms should now know that you can't lead while waffling and calling Iraq the wrong war)
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To: sinkspur
Hastert's office issued a press release this afternoon that said this is totally false. The Bush administration is doing no such thing.

Can you post link?

Went to Hastert’s district site and found press release dated 9/24 as the latest.

http://www.house.gov/hastert/press/date.shtml

Also went to his speaker site and found nothing about press release relating to refuting this story.

http://www.speaker.gov/library/misc/0401005_911.shtml

17 posted on 10/06/2004 8:15:55 PM PDT by Aquakat
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I am truly disheartened that our elected officials are pandering to the illegal Mexicans. I just don't understand it. The only thing that I can think of is the "one global world" that I heard Bush Sr. talk about when he was President. 4 posted on 10/06/2004 6:06:04 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!))) I believe the president's proposed policies to enable legal work status on condition of payroll job status relates to our needs for a growing work force and a growing population. By 2050, world population is predicted to grow from 6 billion now to 12 billion then, almost all of the increase being in Asia, Africa and below the equator. The USA domestic population has a birthrate that will maintain our population, but will not increase it. We need immigration from elsewhere, hopefully from friendly cultures that identify with our morality and values, in order to maintain a defense for our own culture and society. Also, we need additional workers to support our economy and to pay retirement benefits for our aging work force - at least unless and until we change our tax system to pay for SS and Medicare on some basis other than employment taxes (the president may get that done in the next two years!). JMO
18 posted on 10/06/2004 8:43:00 PM PDT by n-tres-ted (Remember November!)
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To: bayourod
Which provision would prevent a terrorist from entering the U.S. or completing his mission?

#,2-5 would speed up the extradition process. After 911 thousands of illegal suspect middle easterners were still in country and could not be located due to a plethora of regulations that #2&3 would possibility have resolved. #4&5 although I am not to enthrall with would help to tract these people down.

Remember, terrorist have immense financial resources and state sponsored resources.

Terrorists don't swim the Rio Grande or crawl across the desert. They have officially issued visas and identification papers, even if the names are phony and the stated reasons for visiting are lies.

Point well taken.

The provisions in question were added by Congressmen to keep out low income laborers, not terrorists.

And why is this bad?.

These laborers are a drain on government services in the southwest and in California ER’s are closing down due to the financial load. Not to mention the increase of crime (other than the original sin of braking immigration laws). This is hyperbole, however, the economic drain is also an consideration of the Homeland.

BTW By creating low income laborers we are creating a subculture of people not too far removed from slavery.

19 posted on 10/06/2004 8:46:00 PM PDT by Aquakat
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These type of deceptions and lies are typical of the anti-Bush anti-Mexican racists who hide behind the children security to promote their hatred and bigotry.

Well, it's no surprise that you showed up on this thread with your Race Card in hand, spewing your baseless racist accusations toward others and making yourself look like a complete fool. So, how was your La Raza meeting last night, bayourod?

20 posted on 10/06/2004 8:48:08 PM PDT by usadave
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