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Girl says bones belong to ghost
Ledger-Enquirer ^ | Tuesday, 5 Oct 04 | MELANIE BENNETT

Posted on 10/05/2004 7:48:14 PM PDT by CurlyBill

Girl says bones belong to ghost

Investigators unsure how possible human remains got inside insulation

BY MELANIE BENNETT
Staff Writer

A Russell County fifth-grader is convinced bones found in her home last weekend belong to a mysterious friend who told her about being chopped up years ago.

Investigators have few clues about how and when the bones got inside insulation under the living room floor of the mobile home on Jowers Road, near East Alabama Motor Speedway.

The 10-year-old, Stephanie Ogden, and her family have lived in the home since 1998. Her great-grandparents, John and Marion Stewart, own the home.

The bones were found Saturday as the Ogdens, who are renovating the home, pulled up boards in the living room floor. Russell County Sheriff's Lt. Heath Taylor said an initial analysis shows the bones are from the pelvis and leg of a child at least 10 years old, and the child has been dead at least 10 years.

Another bone was found Sunday, Marion Stewart said. The area where the bones were found had duct tape over the insulation, Stewart said.

"There's an odor there that doesn't belong," Stewart said.

The bones probably don't have enough marrow to do DNA tests, Taylor said. Because the trailer has been moved several times between Georgia and Alabama, investigators now are faced with the daunting task of trying to track down missing children from a wide area in two states.

Taylor said gnaw marks on the bones may indicate a rodent placed them inside the insulation. Dirt and plant material on the bones indicate they were outside at one time, Taylor said.

Stephanie said a black girl in a white dress started visiting her room when she was about 5 years old. The girl was friendly, but she told Stephanie a horrible story.

"She told me that somebody put her in the floor," Stephanie said. "She said he had a mask on, and that he chopped her up. She didn't know who the person was, because he had a mask on."

Stephanie, a fifth-grader at Dixie Elementary School, now thinks that the bones that were found in her home belong to her playmate.

"It's possible because that girl was a ghost," Stephanie said Monday. "Nobody knows about them."

Marion Stewart said Stephanie used to tell her family about the visitor, but the adults always dismissed the stories as being an imaginative child's fabrication based partly on horror movies. Stewart said Stephanie used to always ask for two glasses of soda when she would play outside -- one glass for her and one for her friend.

Stewart said the weekend's grisly discoveries have convinced her that her great-granddaughter's playmate is actually a tormented soul seeking peace.

"I'm not a psychic, and I don't believe in some of that stuff," Stewart said. "But I believe this is a soul who has not been put to rest."

Taylor said detectives can't base their work on ghost stories.

"Do you have any idea how hard it is to investigate a ghost?" he said Monday.

Investigators are looking through databases of missing children to find any links to the trailer's location, but Taylor doesn't hold out much hope of solving the case.

"It's just one of those cases where there's just not a lot to go on," he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: callingartbell; ghost; ghosts; halloween; haunt; haunted; haunting; murder; notmyfault
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To: CurlyBill

thanks for the ping...


21 posted on 10/06/2004 12:15:46 AM PDT by fabian
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To: Ciexyz

>I didn't think anything could be scarier than John Edwards in
>the debate...

Edwards...heck, this is scarier than the picture of Susan Estrich on the other thread!


22 posted on 10/06/2004 12:31:57 AM PDT by applemac_g4 (Oderint dum metuat!)
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To: TXBubba; CurlyBill

Makes you wonder about all those "imaginary playmate" stories...


23 posted on 10/06/2004 2:08:07 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: CurlyBill
Thanks for the great ping! CurlyBill.

I'm having a hard time disbelieving young Stephanie. However, Stephanie's impression the ghost was black American -- could also be due to the deceased having resided in a dark place prior to her death. There are lots of cues inside an apparition, or rather, an impression. Be interesting to learn what the investigators learn.

24 posted on 10/06/2004 4:16:00 AM PDT by Alia
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To: CurlyBill

Thanks for the ping, Bill!


25 posted on 10/06/2004 4:29:51 AM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: CurlyBill

A good story for Halloween.


26 posted on 10/06/2004 4:32:14 AM PDT by Reader of news
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To: CurlyBill

Hmm, there are several questions in this story. How could there be an odor after 10 years? If there was duct tape, it was a person, not a rodent, that put the bones there. Why isn't there enough DNA if the bones were large enough for the family to determine they were human? The person the grandparents bought the trailer from should be the first questioned. On the other hand, could the little girl have witnessed the crime and it's coming out as fantasy?


27 posted on 10/06/2004 4:37:55 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Darksheare; Borax Queen; null and void

Wonder why this made me think of y'all.


28 posted on 10/06/2004 4:44:25 AM PDT by sweetliberty (Proud member of the Pajama Posse!)
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To: CurlyBill

Good story....thanks.


29 posted on 10/06/2004 4:45:36 AM PDT by Arpege92 (We're here! We're Conservative! And we're in your face! - theDentist)
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To: CalRepublican
"Come to think of it, that does seem a reasonable question to ask."

Not necessarily for a 5 year old, which is what she was at the time.

30 posted on 10/06/2004 4:47:57 AM PDT by sweetliberty (Proud member of the Pajama Posse!)
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To: mtbopfuyn

All good points, except that I didin't get the impression that it was being suggested that the rodents PUT the bones in there, but rather that they had access to the bones at some point, which would explain why they were chewed.


31 posted on 10/06/2004 4:51:15 AM PDT by sweetliberty (Proud member of the Pajama Posse!)
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To: sweetliberty
Taylor said gnaw marks on the bones may indicate a rodent placed them inside the insulation. Dirt and plant material on the bones indicate they were outside at one time, Taylor said.

See, that makes no sense.

32 posted on 10/06/2004 5:16:18 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: mtbopfuyn
"Taylor said gnaw marks on the bones may indicate a rodent placed them inside the insulation."

I think it was just badly worded. I think the writer meant, placed the rodents with the bones.

33 posted on 10/06/2004 5:20:03 AM PDT by sweetliberty (Proud member of the Pajama Posse!)
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To: CurlyBill

"Because the trailer has been moved several times between Georgia and Alabama"

Jeff Foxworthy, please pick up the white courtesy phone.


34 posted on 10/06/2004 5:24:54 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: sweetliberty; Borax Queen; null and void

Well, I may be wraithery like, but as far as I know I ain't dead yet.


35 posted on 10/06/2004 6:00:32 AM PDT by Darksheare (Vote Dubya on Nov 2nd to exorcise the DemUns!)
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To: Darksheare

Thank you for ping - love ghost stories!


36 posted on 10/06/2004 6:20:21 AM PDT by Borax Queen ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists." (President Bush, 29 Nov 2001)
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To: sweetliberty

Heh heh heh heh heh *spooky laugh*

Thanks!


37 posted on 10/06/2004 6:21:23 AM PDT by Borax Queen ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists." (President Bush, 29 Nov 2001)
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To: Borax Queen

Welcome.
;-)


38 posted on 10/06/2004 6:22:35 AM PDT by Darksheare (Vote Dubya on Nov 2nd to exorcise the DemUns!)
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To: Dubya's fan
Yeah, it's that time of year. I was hoping to post more stories recently, but I was waiting for those worthy of poosting. Hopefully there will be some decent reports coming up.

BTW - tonight on the Sci-Fi Channel, they have two new shows on. The first is called Proof Positive. This is right down my alley. This show tries to check paranormal claims out using science. Since I'm a skeptic, this is exactly the type of show that I like to watch. Unlike those who only set out to debunk, I keep an open mind and actually hope that some of these things are true. It makes life all that more interesting.

39 posted on 10/06/2004 7:19:04 AM PDT by CurlyBill (Voter Fraud is one of the primary campaign strategies of the Democrats!)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Yeah, this somewhat reminds me of that show that was on recently... I believe it was called "Haunting in Atlanta." That was one where the little girl met an older man in her backyard. At first her parents were concerned it was a child molester trying to lure the girl away... but then he began appearing to the girl in the house when the parents were home. She even named the man.... and as it turns out, there was a man who lived in the area by that same name. Even more creepy is the fact that she picked his photo out of a bunch that they showed her.


40 posted on 10/06/2004 7:21:54 AM PDT by CurlyBill (Voter Fraud is one of the primary campaign strategies of the Democrats!)
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