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A Closer Look At Soldiers In Iraq (Most excellent read)
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | October 5, 2004 | Karl Zinsmeister

Posted on 10/05/2004 5:46:57 PM PDT by Former Military Chick

I've spent months in Iraq's combat zones and written two books about how the war is progressing on the ground. In a society that was horribly broken after two decades of misrule, many things have already improved. More hard fighting lies ahead, however. Due to the scandalous absence of international humanitarian help, most practical efforts to improve life for the Iraqis are also falling in the lap of the U.S. military.

It is psychologically difficult to wage a tough urban war at the same time you are reconstructing the neighborhoods being battled over, and our soldiers are not perfect. Yet breakdowns in discipline among the 350,000 U.S. soldiers who have served in Iraq have been minuscule. The independent panel reviewing the Abu Ghraib scandal concluded that in many millions of interactions between U.S. forces and Iraqi resisters there were only 66 cases of confirmed abuse -- most minor, usually occurring in the heat of battle, and all punished.

I have seen fighters firing at our troops from ambulances, terrorists hiding behind children, insurgents pretending to surrender then pulling out weapons. We can be proud of the way our troops have performed.

The idealism and talent of the individuals who serve in our military today is much higher than many realize. I know a man who was nearly through a Ph.D. when he decided to start jumping out of airplanes with the 82nd Airborne. He came in as a private. I know of another private who was a CPA. I discovered an open-heart-surgery technician who was convinced by 9/11 that his country needed him for more important work. He is now an Army medic.

I've met graduates of tony schools in U.S. camps in Iraq, in officer corps and in the ranks.

Outsiders who envision our fighting forces as authoritarian institutions would be quite surprised to observe the meritocratic nature of our military in action. Independent thinking is not only tolerated in our armed forces at present; it is required by the demands of counterinsurgency warfare. Obstacles are surmounted after wide debate.

U.S. soldiers not only have the skills to fly missiles into specific windows and squeeze off one-mile sniper shots, They have the openness and democratic habits to serve as good representatives of our liberal society. Most of the soldiers I've spent time with are motivated by high principles extending far beyond self-preservation.

Lt. John Gibson of the 82nd Airborne wrote his parents from Iraq on his birthday to say, "We are homesick and want to see our families, but not at the expense of an incomplete mission. I know that a completely free and democratic Iraq may not be in place by the time I leave, but it will be under way. I see things here that hurt the human heart ... poverty, crime, terrorism, murder. However, I see hope in the eyes of many Iraqis, hope for a chance to govern themselves."

Are our soldiers all saints and scholars? Of course not. But in my observations, most are doing impressive work at stabilizing a brutalized nation. I believe history will look kindly on their accomplishments.

Embedded reporter Karl Zinsmeister, author of "Dawn Over Baghdad" and "Boots on the Ground," will give an illustrated talk on Iraq at 7 p.m. tomorrow at Meydenbauer Center in Bellevue. Seattle World Affairs Council: 206-441-5910.


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KEYWORDS: iraq; oif; soldiers; zinmeister
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I really thought this was an excellent article, the reporter seemed open to the soldiers and their hard work. Showing this in his writing is impressive. At least to me.

BTW, the "most excellent" was given by my beloved a military hunk!

1 posted on 10/05/2004 5:46:57 PM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick

But according to the liberal press, they are all baby killers...


2 posted on 10/05/2004 5:48:57 PM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Former Military Chick

But according to the liberal press, they are all baby killers...


3 posted on 10/05/2004 5:49:42 PM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Former Military Chick

But according to the liberal press, they are all baby killers...


4 posted on 10/05/2004 5:49:59 PM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Former Military Chick

It is a very good article. Take note that he is an embedded reporter. A lot of those that talk negatively about the war and how it is going, are reporting from miles away from the action. Most probably havent talked to a soldier let alone been there in battle with them.


5 posted on 10/05/2004 5:50:26 PM PDT by donnab
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To: 2banana

Thank you and you are right, but, I did get the first time you posted it. :)


6 posted on 10/05/2004 5:52:21 PM PDT by Former Military Chick (REALLY REALLY Ticked OFF in the heartland)
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To: Former Military Chick

Great Post!

WE have not only the Best military in the world, but have the most intelligent and most compassionate in the world as well.

Sorry Mr. Kerry, they really don't like you either...


7 posted on 10/05/2004 5:55:27 PM PDT by DSBull (Truth is the light of the World, shine it everywhere)
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To: Former Military Chick

Somebody else said it first, but it's true: We have a new Greatest Generation, thank God.


8 posted on 10/05/2004 5:58:28 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Former Military Chick

Bookmarked.


9 posted on 10/05/2004 6:02:16 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Marriage is the bedrock of human civilization. Destroy marriage, destroy human civilization.)
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To: Former Military Chick
We can be proud of the way our troops have performed.

I wish the same could be said for the mainstream media and the "loyal opposition".

But they don't deserve it.

10 posted on 10/05/2004 6:04:28 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Former Military Chick
Suprising this guy writes for the SP-I.

Outsiders who envision our fighting forces as authoritarian institutions would be quite surprised to observe the meritocratic nature of our military in action. Independent thinking is not only tolerated in our armed forces at present; it is required by the demands of counterinsurgency warfare. Obstacles are surmounted after wide debate.

It's not just meritocracy, it's also Darwinism in action. Soldiers will perform better for a competent leader, which in turn makes him look better. Soldiers know the difference between a leader and a dilletant. The latter don't do well when performance counts and soldiers' lives are on the line.

Draw your own parallels to the presidential race.

11 posted on 10/05/2004 6:05:53 PM PDT by No Longer Free State
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To: Chieftain; Ragtime Cowgirl; gatorbait; GreyFriar; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; americanmother; ...

As my beloved has said "a most excellent read" ***PING***


12 posted on 10/05/2004 6:12:19 PM PDT by Former Military Chick (REALLY REALLY Ticked OFF in the heartland)
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To: Former Military Chick

". . . insurgents pretending to surrender then pulling out weapons. "

I'd like to see the aftermath of those.


13 posted on 10/05/2004 6:25:12 PM PDT by Elvis van Foster
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To: Former Military Chick

~Excellent article ping~

God Bless our Troops!!


14 posted on 10/05/2004 10:50:42 PM PDT by Ros42
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To: Former Military Chick; KiloLima; eagle mama

Sorry for the ping Former Military Chick! Ping to KiloLima and Eagle mama!


15 posted on 10/05/2004 10:54:11 PM PDT by Ros42
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To: Former Military Chick

A meritocracy must be very scary to liberals. They view sucess as winning "life's lottery".


16 posted on 10/06/2004 6:23:03 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: No Longer Free State

Re: "It's not just meritocracy, it's also Darwinism in action. Soldiers will perform better for a competent leader, which in turn makes him look better. Soldiers know the difference between a leader and a dilletant. The latter don't do well when performance counts and soldiers' lives are on the line.
Draw your own parallels to the presidential race."

Absolutely. That's what Bush tried to drill into Kerry during the debate, and it's a factor not even realised by those who've never served. Or by those occupied with getting enough purple hearts to buy their way out of a war zone within 4 months in the area of operations. It's my understanding that you don't act with courage under fire 'for the good of the country' or even so much out of 'discipline,' but out of love and respect for your buddies and leaders. Excrement rolls downhill; you can't expect soldiers, Marines, etc to go into the belly of the beast for Kerry's sake as they do for Bush's leadership.


17 posted on 10/06/2004 7:37:05 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (Uniform of the day: Freepajamas)
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To: Elvis van Foster

Probably looks something like: SPLAT!!!


18 posted on 10/06/2004 6:15:27 PM PDT by eagle mama (If Kerry wins the election will he flip-flop on Edwards and ask Saddam to be VP?)
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To: Former Military Chick

Kerry and Edwards, read this and take your MSM rhetoric and put it in your peace pipe and light up. I just wanted to slap the little boy's face everytime he said "just watch the tv and you'll know how badly things are in Iraq" yeah you mama's boy, fortunately many don't believe the dribble from MSM. I hope this is brought up again in the next debate and I hope W says what he said when Allawi was in town "This is what we need to see more of in the Media" Tell them W, sure you only going to see the bad on the television because the bad is all that's reported by the slanted MSM.


19 posted on 10/06/2004 6:20:45 PM PDT by eagle mama (If Kerry wins the election will he flip-flop on Edwards and ask Saddam to be VP?)
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To: Elvis van Foster

The results of such encounter are not pretty.

:-)


20 posted on 10/06/2004 6:26:27 PM PDT by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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