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National debt near $7.4 trillion ceiling
Globe Newspaper Company ^ | October 5, 2004 | Leigh Strope, Associated Press

Posted on 10/05/2004 2:36:26 PM PDT by Ed Current

The government is poised to hit the national debt's $7.4 trillion ceiling this month, and yesterday the Bush administration told Congress again that it should raise the limit.

That would be a politically sticky move just weeks from the Nov. 2 elections.

Rob Nichols, Treasury Department spokesman, said the government is on track to reach the limit early this month. He said that the forecast is made "on a day-to-day basis" and that Congress would be notified.

The government can juggle accounts to stay under the limit through mid-November to avoid default, as it has in the past.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hyperinflation; nationaldebt; newbie; taxes; zot
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To: Ed Current

BLAH BLAH BLAH... raising taxes and slowing the rate of growth IS NOT THE WAY TO FIX OUR PROBLEMS, John F Kennedy knew this, Ronald Reagan knew this and George W Bush knows this....


41 posted on 10/05/2004 3:39:36 PM PDT by FesterUSMC (If you don't have the hammer your going to be the anvil, and I would rather be the hammer!FesterUSMC)
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To: Ed Current

You may be a troll, I dunno. If Kerry is elected, we won't have to worry about the national debt. You know why? c'mon ask me.


42 posted on 10/05/2004 3:41:36 PM PDT by listenhillary (We are defending the peace by taking the fight to the enemy.GWB)
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To: listenhillary

I am concerned about the national debt and am not afraid to say it.


43 posted on 10/05/2004 3:44:58 PM PDT by USA_Soccer (Try a better (free + open source) browser -> Mozilla Firefox @ mozilla.org)
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To: USA_Soccer

But you didn't ask me the question.

If Kerry is elected, we won't have to worry about the national debt. You know why?


44 posted on 10/05/2004 3:47:52 PM PDT by listenhillary (We are defending the peace by taking the fight to the enemy.GWB)
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To: listenhillary

BBT (Waving hand in air wildly...): I KNOW, I KNOW, ask ME, Teacher!!!!!


45 posted on 10/05/2004 3:48:14 PM PDT by BBT
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To: Ed Current; dufekin; Tacos; EagleUSA; listenhillary; Dead Corpse; FesterUSMC; ...

Since no one under the age of 50 believes they are going to see a dime of the money they're paying into Social Security and Medicare, everyone under the age of 50 should write-off whatever they pay into S.S. and Medicare as a charitable deduction - since that's what it really is!


46 posted on 10/05/2004 3:52:36 PM PDT by anonsquared (IT'S OUR NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY, STUPID!)
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To: BBT
OK, but I'll go first. Because we won't HAVE A FRICK'N ECONOMY to worry about after Kerry raises taxes on S corporations that hire the majority of the people.

Second, If we subject our defense to the UN and terrorists take out a several major cities like New York, LA, Chicago our economy will very unlikely survive.

Your turn BBT

47 posted on 10/05/2004 3:53:36 PM PDT by listenhillary (We are defending the peace by taking the fight to the enemy.GWB)
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To: maestro

Look closer, the debt INCREASED every year during Clinton's presidency.


48 posted on 10/05/2004 3:56:43 PM PDT by groanup (Our kids sleep soundly because soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines stand ready to die for us.)
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To: anonsquared
Since no one under the age of 50 believes they are going to see a dime of the money they're paying into Social Security and Medicare, everyone under the age of 50 should write-off whatever they pay into S.S. and Medicare as a charitable deduction - since that's what it really is!

That is why SOME of young people's money should go into a private account that can not be touched be the government, then they will have something when they retire to count on.

49 posted on 10/05/2004 3:57:36 PM PDT by FesterUSMC (If you don't have the hammer your going to be the anvil, and I would rather be the hammer!FesterUSMC)
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To: Ed Current

"Even Bill Clinton and a Democratic Congress didn't spend like this. Amazing as it may sound, the ostensibly small-government GOP seems totally oblivious to the fact that all this spending puts its future economic agenda in jeopardy."

That's probably because Bill Clinton ignored us being attacked for eight years and instead of doing something about it, taxed us into a recession.

But hey, vote for Kerry. Let's see if we can double it.




50 posted on 10/05/2004 4:02:05 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Control the information given to society and you control society.)
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To: listenhillary
Teacher, teacher! That poster stole my answer!

May I be excused now?

51 posted on 10/05/2004 4:04:11 PM PDT by BBT
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To: BBT

As long as you promise to make two liberals cry in frustration at their inability to refute your well reasoned logic.


52 posted on 10/05/2004 4:07:21 PM PDT by listenhillary (We are defending the peace by taking the fight to the enemy.GWB)
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To: anonsquared
Unfortunately, I cannot write off my "contributions" to various government funds as a charitable deduction because I do not have a charitable motive for paying yet another set of taxes imposed by the government for purportedly "charitable" purposes like giving it to the plethora of senior citizens. I'd rather spend my charity dollars elsewhere. And when can I begin to deduct the rest of my taxes as charitable donations? How about school taxes, since I have no dependents in school?

And, oh, yeah, God still wants a tithe--not a tax!
53 posted on 10/05/2004 4:09:35 PM PDT by dufekin (President Kerry would have our enemies partying like it's 1969, when Kerry first committed treason.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Don't try to argue logic with that man. He is not capable of answering your question.
54 posted on 10/05/2004 4:11:57 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: FesterUSMC
John F Kennedy knew this, Ronald Reagan knew this and George W Bush knows this....

Well, actually Ronald Reagan signed Tax increases in 1982 and 1983.

55 posted on 10/05/2004 4:16:40 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: pete anderson
In his column of Jan. 28 ("What really stimulates an economy"), Mark Bowden should have stopped writing after his first sentence, which ended with the words "I don't know anything about economics."

Bowden, in an effort to make the case against tax cuts and for more government spending from the perspective of the "average American," reveals a stunning ignorance not only of the tenets of basic economics but of history as well. He asserts that President Reagan's across-the-board tax reductions -- which he disparages with the tired slanders "voodoo economics" and "snake-oil pitch" -- caused the deficits of the 1980s and failed to stimulate the economy. These claims are false and easily refuted.

According to the U.S. Office of Management and Budget, federal tax revenues more than doubled between 1980 and 1990 (the Reagan tax cuts were implemented between 1981 and 1983), from $517 billion in 1980 to more than $1 trillion in 1990. At the same time, federal spending rose even faster -- from $591 billion in 1980 to more than $1.25 trillion in 1990. Of course, Reagan acquiesced to the spendthrift Congress, but the fact remains that tax cuts stimulated the economy, and the data makes it clear that the deficits of the 1980s were caused by overspending, not a paucity of tax revenues.

Read the article here

56 posted on 10/05/2004 4:23:06 PM PDT by FesterUSMC (If you don't have the hammer your going to be the anvil, and I would rather be the hammer!FesterUSMC)
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To: FesterUSMC

I do not doubt that tax cuts help the economy but Ronald Reagan DID sign legislation to Increase Taxes in 1982 and 1983.


57 posted on 10/05/2004 4:26:31 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: FesterUSMC

http://www.pkarchive.org/column/060804.html


58 posted on 10/05/2004 4:28:02 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: pete anderson

According to the U.S. Office of Management and Budget, federal tax revenues more than doubled between 1980 and 1990 (the Reagan tax cuts were implemented between 1981 and 1983), from $517 billion in 1980 to more than $1 trillion in 1990. At the same time, federal spending rose even faster -- from $591 billion in 1980 to more than $1.25 trillion in 1990. Of course, Reagan acquiesced to the spendthrift Congress, but the fact remains that tax cuts stimulated the economy, and the data makes it clear that the deficits of the 1980s were caused by overspending, not a paucity of tax revenues.


59 posted on 10/05/2004 4:30:06 PM PDT by FesterUSMC (If you don't have the hammer your going to be the anvil, and I would rather be the hammer!FesterUSMC)
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To: Ed Current
Although I support what President Bush has done in the area of kicking Muslim butt in retaliation for 9-11, I am extremely disappointed in his performance in this area and several others.

Newt Gingrich said on Fox the other night that Bush believed in smaller government. I had to E-mail Fox and ask them "What planet is Newt living on?" cause it sure ain't this one.

60 posted on 10/05/2004 4:33:53 PM PDT by snopercod (What we have lost will not be returned to us.)
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