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To: Capriole
First of all, you have to dispense with all feminist garbage and examine the truths in the bible about creation order, sex, and men and women.

Having sex? Not really. All two women can really do is foreplay.

Sex takes a man, obviously the one viewing the foreplay, and he gets both women.

Sex is a situation where the man has the power, which they grant the woman. The power, the physical ability to say no, comes from the man. He grants this power to the woman. While this may not be always literally true, it is psychologically and spiritually true of the sexual relationship between man and woman.

That interplay shows the relationship between God and man. God has all the power, but God allows man to make the decision.

Homosexual male sex is universally abhorrent (even to homosexual males) because it turns this deep-seated psychological truth on its head. One man loses the power to say no. One man attempts to surpass another in the creation order. Both become abomination.

With women, neither has the power (psychologically/spiritually) so one does not surpass the other. What takes place is more akin to mutual masturbation than sex. Is it deviant? Yes. Is it wrong? Yes. But it is a sin that does not typically outrage our conscience.

55 posted on 10/04/2004 8:23:02 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal

"Having sex? Not really. All two women can really do is foreplay.

Sex takes a man, obviously the one viewing the foreplay, and he gets both women.

Sex is a situation where the man has the power, which they grant the woman.
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Really? The man has the power? I don't think so. Seems to me that I remember being told "NO" countless times in high school, and even later. Seems to me that the woman generally holds the power in sexual matters.


57 posted on 10/04/2004 8:26:06 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: hopespringseternal
Sex is a situation where the man has the power

You've gotta be kidding.

114 posted on 10/04/2004 9:22:39 AM PDT by Modernman (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J.)
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To: hopespringseternal

"Homosexual male sex is universally abhorrent (even to homosexual males) because it turns this deep-seated psychological truth on its head. One man loses the power to say no. One man attempts to surpass another in the creation order. Both become abomination."

Yes I think you're on to something. The "equality" of homosexualty of gay vis a vis lesbian has always been problematic for me. The model I use is the sex act itself. 2 males perform the actual act of sex identically to that of a heterosexual couple. Thus, the act itself, is an abmonination, a corruption of the very nature of procreational sex. 2 lesbians are performing acts which are not, by definition, procreational and does not insult the very nature of basic sex. A heterosexual couple, a man and a woman of course, who engage in non-procreational sex acts is not an abomination since the acts themselves mosly imitate what is acceptable in nature. As we have seen throughout human history, there are serious consequences for going against nature. We see today what the consequences of persistently oversteping the bounds of sexual nature: disease, terrible pain, loss of vital bodily functions and eventually death. Mother Nature will ultimately be the final arbiter of how man will engage in his most personal pleasures. And remember, it's not nice to fool Mother Nature!


158 posted on 10/04/2004 9:57:42 AM PDT by BombHollywood
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