What part of 'gay' don't they understand? (lesbian angry that men like watching her kiss girlfriend)

Sydney Morning Herald ^ | October 5, 2004 | Nadine Davidoff

[Positive]

"Uh, yesterday, you'd have seen that while my wife and I were in the grocery store. We often hold hands, and I gave her a quick kiss right there in the checkout line. But then, we're newlyweds, having been married only 13 years."

Must have had your cialis Friday.

[WKB]

What you see

Is NOT what you get.

http://www.speakoutnow.org/People/BrendaandWandaHenson.html

[oceanperch]

A butch woman can never take the place of a man no matter how shaved her head is and flannel her shirt is.

Men have a smell to them that is like a hypnotic drug. Not all men have the same smell. Mix that with the scent of a good cigar and it is very attractive IMO.



Women have a smell to and it gags me esp. if their Aunt is visiting.

[spodefly]

Almost 200 replies and only one decent photo illustrating the idealized version of the topic at hand. Do I have to do everything around here?

[Vigilantcitizen]

Angry young Australian lesbians. That's hot.

Is there a DVD out yet?

[oceanperch]

I see your point.

It is natural for a man to be dominant in a consensual sexual act with a woman.

WHo would want a girlie-man.

Masculine/feminine.

[Scenic Sounds]

Here is the post that kicked off this debate. Is he talking about history or what's natural? Is he talking about rape or a psychological dynamic? I would say he's right on the money. You can decide for yourself what the rebuttals mean.

As best I understand that post, this seems to be the central premise:

"Sex is a situation where the man has the power, which they grant the woman. The power, the physical ability to say no, comes from the man. He grants this power to the woman. While this may not be always literally true, it is psychologically and spiritually true of the sexual relationship between man and woman."

Maybe this is just an individual sort of thing, but as a man, I don't view myself as nobly granting to women the power to decline my invitations. I honestly think that the main reason that most men don't commit rape is because they have no innate desire to engage in nonconsexual sex. It's really that simple for me.

[petercooper]

yikes

[MineralMan]

"Maybe this is just an individual sort of thing, but as a man, I don't view myself as nobly granting to women the power to decline my invitations. I honestly think that the main reason that most men don't commit rape is because they have no innate desire to engage in nonconsexual sex. It's really that simple for me."

Yup. I've always found that sex was much, much more fun when both parties are willing and active participants. I can't imagine why anyone would want to have sex with someone who didn't want to engage in that activity. Different strokes, I guess.

When I was stationed in Turkey in the USAF, there was a government-run brothel (Turkish) near the isolated base where I was stationed. Lots of the other guys frequented the brothel, but I could never quite see the point. Frankly, I'd rather do it myself than have sex with someone for money. It just didn't appeal.

[Positive]

"'Natural' is as meaningless as 'organic.'"

I say heterosexual activity is "natural" because it can produce a "natural" product...another human being. The same is not so of homosexual activity.

On the other hand "orgasms" are natural, no matter how they are arrived at. (pun intended)

[hopespringseternal]

Maybe this is just an individual sort of thing, but as a man, I don't view myself as nobly granting to women the power to decline my invitations. I honestly think that the main reason that most men don't commit rape is because they have no innate desire to engage in nonconsexual sex.

Actually, there is very little nobility in it, and if you think there is you have a problem. Any of us has the power to "lie in wait" and kill someone. That few people do isn't evidence of noble character, rather it is simply evidence that we are not of particularly nasty character.

[William Terrell]

Which poses the question: what part of the word "gay" do these men not understand?

Well, acutally, the whole word. These woman don't look happy or cheerful, they look like homosexuals caught in the grip of an identity crisis and in denial about their sickness.

[Modernman]

Sodomy (same sex behavior) is always immoral

Why?

[Capriole]

If I posted my pictures on my profile page everyone would assume it was another ClassyBlueEyedBlonde situation going on. You may recall that episode.

[ovrtaxt]

Well, if they're big block rockin' thick chicks with vestigial mustaches ( I said vestigial....) then that's not interesting for anyone to look at.

Except in a 'human sideshow of misery' kind of way....

[Capriole]

If I posted my pictures on my profile page everyone would assume it was another ClassyBlueEyedBlonde situation going on. You may recall that episode.

[Old Professer]

I used to buy Playboy magazine for the articles.

Before you laugh let me remind you that they featured one remarkably entertaining writer, Jean Shepard who once commented that he could swear that his old man had rear-facing radar in his right hand as he could swat any errant ingrate who happened to be so unfortunate as to be big of mouth and small of intellect while occupying the backseat of a moving car on a family outing.

If you were the loving mother of a testosterone-saturated split-seamed offspring wouldn't your first instinct be to protect the family?

[Clemenza]

OK, are there ANY women out there who get turned on watching two guys going at it?

(Silence, Crickets chirping)

[Rastus]

I am sure they enjoyed themselves (well, Britney surely did) but did they realise that this wanton publicity stunt trivialises and misrepresents every genuine display of affection between lesbian women?

[Clemenza]

I take it you've never seen film of lions mating. Lioness' fiercely snarling and snapping, her neck firmly held in the jaws of the much heavier more powerful male. Yeah, she said 'yes' alrighty.

Ping!