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What part of 'gay' don't they understand? (lesbian angry that men like watching her kiss girlfriend)
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | October 5, 2004 | Nadine Davidoff

Posted on 10/04/2004 7:31:17 AM PDT by dead

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To: Capriole
I am a woman, and I would like male Freepers to explain to me why they enjoy seeing women having sex. I love the bodies of men but I don't enjoy seeing male gays do it. Is it even possible to explain these pre-verbal reactions using words, or is it like describing color to a blind man?

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but the average woman is so much better looking than the average man, that two women = twice as good. When it comes down to pure physical beauty, I don't understand why all women aren't dykes.

But I can't imagine paying hard cash for the sake of porno of any sort. Some folks must have more money than sense.

161 posted on 10/04/2004 10:01:25 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: MineralMan

yeah but do female animals have O's I didn't think they did. If it was pleasurable as the same two humans meaning male/female would the female cat fight.

I had to witness my female Lab and document time/date for AKC papers and it seemed very painful as I understand it the male organ balloons out during the session and that's why they get stuck and in some twisted positions.

It appeared to be very painful even for the male Lab when he got spun around while still in the process.

Aren't animals designed to engage in reproduction simply by the male being attracted to a female in heat for the out come of offspring.

God designed it pretty good. Except he gave us free will.


162 posted on 10/04/2004 10:01:53 AM PDT by oceanperch ( Hurricanes,Earthquakes and Volcanoes.....What Next? GOD)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Of course not! All women have silicone boobs and like to diddle each other while waiting for some horny guy to come along and treat 'em like REAL women!

I KNEW IT!

163 posted on 10/04/2004 10:02:24 AM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: NYC GOP Chick

Phew! Thanks, I was getting really concerned there for a few minutes. ;p


164 posted on 10/04/2004 10:02:35 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: oceanperch
I know mentally damaged or unbalanced humans however you want to put it that have outstanding moral lives.

True. Some people who are mentally damaged can be very moral. However people who are mentally damaged and committing sodomy as a result are not moral. Sodomy (same sex behavior) is always immoral

165 posted on 10/04/2004 10:02:45 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: HamiltonJay
If the so called "lesbians" really wanted women, there would be no place for the "BUTCH DYKE", as this is nothing but a woman who does everything in her power and mannerisms to act and look like a MAN.

Stop being so dar**d logical.

166 posted on 10/04/2004 10:03:16 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: MineralMan
read post 101.
167 posted on 10/04/2004 10:03:58 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Modernman
Rape is not a good strategy for passing on one's genes. Since the rapist is unlikely to stick around to take care of the resulting child, that child (especially in a primitive society) is less likely to survive.

But if you sire 30 children on 30 different women in differing locations surely one set of genes will survive. Spreading seed widely does have it's advantages.

[please note that I believe rapists should be castrated and then executed. It's just that self-serving behavior is totally human nature]

168 posted on 10/04/2004 10:06:28 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Scenic Sounds
And that is why it is so important to carefully examine the arguments that are being offered to justify the use of the term natural.

I'm trying to stay with the original point, referring to male dominance in general, rather than deal with the rabbit trails that lead away from it. The word natural came up in order to confuse that issue precisely because it can be molded to fit any premise.

169 posted on 10/04/2004 10:07:52 AM PDT by TigersEye (Muslims and Democrats kill babies for fun and profit.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

;)


170 posted on 10/04/2004 10:11:48 AM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Here by the sea and sand, nothing ever goes as planned)
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To: Scenic Sounds

God gives us all free will. Women who are raped are not doing it as a free will act. It is a violent act by a man who cannot control his sexual urges and does not respect woman whom have a right to human dignity.

What about men in prison who rape other men.

Rape is a violation of human rights.
Choosing a same sex relationship has nothing to do with human rights as both are willing to engage in the act so they can't complain about rights.

How many men/woman who sleep around go around screaming equal rights.


171 posted on 10/04/2004 10:12:13 AM PDT by oceanperch ( Hurricanes,Earthquakes and Volcanoes.....What Next? GOD)
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To: Scenic Sounds
In nearly every society, rape is a losing strategy. ;-)

I agree entirely. And it's the concept of society where man gives the power to the woman. Without social pressure it's every man for himself. With social pressure it's how do I convince her to have sex with me within societies boundaries.

172 posted on 10/04/2004 10:12:22 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: dead

The subject of human sexaulity and on this thread animal reproduction is like opening a can of worms.


173 posted on 10/04/2004 10:14:48 AM PDT by oceanperch ( Hurricanes,Earthquakes and Volcanoes.....What Next? GOD)
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To: NYC GOP Chick

"All women have silicone boobs and like to diddle each other while waiting for some horny guy to come along and treat 'em like REAL women!
"

See there! You DO know the truth of things. [BIG grin]


174 posted on 10/04/2004 10:20:07 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: TigersEye
I'm trying to stay with the original point, referring to male dominance in general, rather than deal with the rabbit trails that lead away from it. The word natural came up in order to confuse that issue precisely because it can be molded to fit any premise.

As to how the word natural came up here in connection with rape, I'm reluctant to put words in someone else's mouth. However, I can suggest that one obvious motive for coupling those two terms might be to find a backdoor means of making rape seem more normal, more understandable or somehow acceptable in some basic, primitive sense. Why anyone would want to find a justification or excuse for rape is beyond me, but I suppose some people feel it's important.

As to the male-female dynamic, it's easy to see that there has been an element of "male dominance" in at least some aspects of the relationship, at least on the surface. But, I don't want to lose sight of the reality that, after all this time, both sexes are still here at the table and both sexes can be pretty tough in the clinches. I'm not ready to declare a winner yet. ;-)

175 posted on 10/04/2004 10:24:08 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: goldstategop

just ask her why women hang all over gay men?


176 posted on 10/04/2004 10:29:06 AM PDT by Docbarleypop (Navy Doc)
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To: Capriole

Rather simple, most guys like to see naked ladies, most guys don't care to see naked guys, so two naked ladies are better than one naked lady and one naked guy or two naked guys.


177 posted on 10/04/2004 10:29:14 AM PDT by Positive (There's nothing sadder than seeing a group of great ideas being murdered by a bunch of brutal facts!)
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To: Scenic Sounds
Here is the post that kicked off this debate. Is he talking about history or what's natural? Is he talking about rape or a psychological dynamic? I would say he's right on the money. You can decide for yourself what the rebuttals mean.
178 posted on 10/04/2004 10:31:32 AM PDT by TigersEye (Muslims and Democrats kill babies for fun and profit.)
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To: NYC GOP Chick

I agree at the level of sexual activity in public.

I was suggesting public signs of affection. Big dif.

A quick kiss or as I said to a man I knew I saw him talking to a woman and the looks on their faces body language not touching each other but obviously wooing each other, as I walked by knowing he has been faithfully married 17yrs even though I have never met his wife I jokingly said That better be the Mrs or I am telling on you Mr.

It was aparent they were a couple in love not public sex show not even touching.

A couple of weeks later the wife saw me and said we had just celebrated our 17th year and I will tell you it hasn't been easy. I guess she was trying to say he could be a real jerk some days too.


179 posted on 10/04/2004 10:32:07 AM PDT by oceanperch ( Hurricanes,Earthquakes and Volcanoes.....What Next? GOD)
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To: cwd26

College is experimentation more than life for most that are "lesbians" during that time.. I know more than a few who experimented in college and are happily married or exclusively male.


180 posted on 10/04/2004 10:35:06 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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