Conservative group targets Bush over immigration

North County Times ^ | 2 October 2004 | William Finn Bennett

[COEXERJ145]

This will get a lot of support on this forum. Lots of people who see this as their only issue and vote based on it.

This is just as stupid as the people who won't vote, or vote third party, over the abortion issue even though the Republican running is 99% pro-life but not the required 100% for the single issue voters.

[montag813]

IDIOTS to be doing this to the Prez at this crucial hour.

[12 Gauge Mossberg]

So do these people think a President Kerry will seal the borders? Bush has increased funding for border patrol. I think his guest-worker plan is flawed too, but what's the best way to approach it? Any plan HAS to go through Congress anyway. Why don't these people put pressure on Congress and the administration AFTER the election?

[Noachian]

Something has to be done about the immigration issue, and we can't make things worse by staying home on election day.

After the election is over is the time to work on immigration through both the Legislature and the courts.

We've found that we can't trust Bush to close the border, so a grass-roots, Conservative, push to go around Bush is the best answer.

[Cultural Jihad]

This is clearly the Left doing this. This is unreal.

Q: Which candidates are calling for militarizing the [Southern] border, protecting American workers, and persecuting those evil, greedy corporations?

A: Ralph Nader and his Socialist Worker's Party cohort.

[bayourod]

"One nationally recognized conservative figure who wants to remain anonymous said last week that he believes the illegal immigration issue represents a threat to Bush's chances of re-election. "The unrest is widespread amongst conservatives," said the man, who served as a campaign consultant on Ronald Reagan's 1976 and 1980 presidential campaigns. "

Buchanan wants to remain anonymous because everyone knows what he is and where he's coming from. That's why he set up Tancredo to be his media outlet.
Others should learn from Buchanan's example of what opinion the public has of people who spout hatred.

[Hardshell]

And Kerry would be better??? Very suspect group!

[ServesURight]

Totally, totally agree. Looks like Soros & the Dems are exploiting a hot-button issue and trying to Tokyo Rose conservatives into staying home or voting for the CP.

[Cultural Jihad]

. . . after November, the long-knives need to come out and conservatives have to retake the party.

Good idea. We can start with the Stormfront crypto-Nazis and other white nationalists.

[JackelopeBreeder]

You are correct. Unfortunately, there are other factors in play.

Senator Orrin Hatch managed to attach his DREAM Act giving reduced tuition to illegals to a critical but unrelated bill, thus avoiding a floor vote.

Senator Craig's AGJOBS bill, which would result in eventual amnesty for up to 3 million illegals (and an effective pardon for their employers for all past transgressions) is headed the same way.

I received an email from NumbersUSA earlier today saying that the White House is pressuring the House of Representatives to remove language from the new 9/11 legislation that would make illegal immigration more difficult. At the time the email was sent, the House Republican leadership was standing firmly against the changes wanted by the White House.

[churchillbuff]

This is clearly the Left doing this."""

When I read the headline, I thought the same thing. Then, I saw Ron Prince's name. He's no leftist. He came up with Proposition 187, the anti-illegal resolution on the California ballot back in the 1990s. It was big news, don't you remember? Definitely not a project of "the Left"

[sarah_f]

I would love to reply to this post as a conservative, but then I would be branded a 'troll' and nuked.

Sigh. (Longing for the days when conservative meant conservative and not republican).

[No-Compromise Conservative]

Your post #8 really nailed it. After this election I am NOT putting my resources and my votes behind the RINO party. In 2008 the RINOs will come from under their rocks and try to scare conservatives into voting for Jeb Bush or Guiliani (or the Constitution will be amended for Arnold to run) or else Hillary will be elected, they'll say. And FReepers will chime in, saying that "THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION IN HISTORY" (Notice that every election is the most important election or else the Dem will win)

Bush's border policies absolutely stink to high heaven. My biggest fear is that after the election he'll resume with his AMNESTY plan without fear since he won't have to worry about reelection again.

[seastay]

Sure Bush has better polices than Kerry, but what difference would it make since those policies will be in gridlock caused by the open border?

The Republican Party of today is in complete opposition to the Republican Party of old formed during the conflict of slavery.

As a reminder; before the civil war wealthy business owners tried to push slavery on the country, which prompted Radical republicans to favor immediate eradication of an institution, they viewed as iniquitous. President Bush’s plan for amnesty and continuation of the present situation of a low paid workforce is in complete opposition to those Radical members of the first Republican Party, whom in the end were proven right.

A strong president would take a stand against business operations who use an illegal immigrant work force. If these businesses cannot make a profit without being subsidized by tax payer social funded programs, such as energy, health, education, roads and water projects needed to support the massive population growth, then they should cease to exist.

This is a capitalist country that is the way it works, if businesses cannot pay their own bills they need to close, we are not supposed to be funding socialist work projects with taxpayer funds to make up the difference.

The modern day equivalent plantation owners who are the backers of these candidates do not have the moral clarity to understand, nor will they change their ways unless threatened by Radical members of the Republican Party in the same manner as was done before the civil war.

The Republican party in 1861 was a coalition of disparate elements. Formed only 7 years earlier, it contained men who had been Whigs, Anti-Slavery Democrats, Free-Soilers, Know-Nothings, and Abolitionists. By the outbreak of the war, these fragments had coalesced into 3 basic factions: conservatives, moderates, and radicals. President Abraham Lincoln's task was to mold these factions into a government that could win the war without destroying the South politically and economically.

The most aggressive and, eventually, most influential of the three was the Radical Republican faction. All Republicans were against slavery, but this group was the most "radical", in its opposition to the "peculiar institution." While conservatives favored gradual emancipation combined with colonization of Freedmen, and while moderates favored emancipation but with reservations, Radicals favored immediate eradication of an institution they viewed as iniquitous, and saw the war as a crusade for "Abolition."

http://www.civilwarhome.com/republicans.htm

[Dat Mon]

Assuming what you say is true....do you want a bullet in the next few years or are you willing to wait 8 -10 years for one. Me, I'll dodge the immediate bullet, vote for Bush, and address the pressing issues of security and cultural warfare. Better to keep my powder dry for the next round of congressional elections.

After this election, there will be a host of issues to come into prominence, immigration is first on the list.

Make no mistake, a Kerry win is a win for a global far left / fascistic group controlled by folks like Soros who have serious plans for this country, none of them good.

As long as you're free and alive, you can plan and react, and effect an outcome in your favor. With Kerry in office, none of us may be around in 2008.

Think real hard in that voting booth.

[The Bandit]

The many benefits of run away immigration:

[radicalamericannationalist]

We're damned if we do, damned if we don't. Kerry would surrender our sovereignty to the tran-Atlantic elite. But if Bush killed every crazy Muslim on earth tomorrow, he;d still lose the war at home.

This is a truly frightening. The days we're living in right now read straight from the fall of Rome and the days that burned towards our Civil War. One hopes that somebody give =s bush a copy of Gibbon or James McPherson.

[dagnabbit]

This is just as stupid as the people who won't vote, or vote third party, over the abortion issue even though the Republican running is 99% pro-life but not the required 100% for the single issue voters.

I think folks that don't want to see the USA abolished in favor a merged state with Mexico would take a lot less than 100 percent on this issue. Unfortunately Bush is coming in at about 5 percent.

[No-Compromise Conservative]

Even if it is Buchanan or Tancredo is behind this (which you offer zero proof), it still doesn't explain why Bush, who promised to "protect this country from threats," has practically rolled out the red carpet along the Rio Grande for illegal aliens to stream through and committ the crimes that American citizens won't committ.

[ladyinred]

This is an outrage. With all that is at stake in this election, these people are encouraging voters to oust the President? Are they insane? What kind of country do they think they will get with Kerry as President?